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Lozenge Camouflage 101
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 01:56 AM UTC

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Terri, Me thinks Stephen is toying with us here..................... Steve



Toying? Toying you say! Harrrrrumpf! I have been the model of congeniality


Here is the 5 colour with some texturing and without serials or national markings. The higher res images will be seen on their website.

thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 02:31 AM UTC
Cool , it really adds life to the model with the texturing added . Will this cause a flat finish which will need clear coat for the rest of the markings to be applied ?
Hatter50
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 04:18 AM UTC
Toying still..........as the "Model of Congeniality".

BTW.......I REALLY do like that weathering............I'm gonna HAVE to do a Lozenge model at some point.

Regards
Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:18 AM UTC
Guys,
I need help here. I am having extreme difficulty in applying the Techmod Rib Tapes on my Albatros.
Any tips?

Cheers,

Hugh
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:21 AM UTC

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Cool , it really adds life to the model with the texturing. Will this cause a flat finish which will need clear coat for the rest of the markings to be applied ?



I usually give the completed texture several coats of Testors Dullcote. I also cut the clear areas from most decals. But even a direct application, like on the weights table below the pilot's left side of the cockpit.

JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 11:29 AM UTC

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Guys, I need help here. I am having extreme difficulty in applying the Techmod Rib Tapes on my Albatros. Any tips? Cheers, Hugh




Whats is the problem Hugh?
MerlinV
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 12:23 PM UTC
Stephen,

The decal is very fragile and has practically zero adhesion. Trying to get it to stick while still being able to manipulate the decal (to get it straight) is very difficult... I have broken a few already.

Cheers,

Hugh
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 07:29 PM UTC

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Stephen, The decal is very fragile and has practically zero adhesion. Trying to get it to stick while still being able to manipulate the decal (to get it straight) is very difficult... I have broken a few already. Cheers, Hugh



First gloss coat your lozenge. Then when dry cut in strips. to help adhesion 50-50 white glue and water.
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 - 07:31 PM UTC
Here is the 5 colour with some texturing and with serials and national markings.

thegirl
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 01:48 AM UTC
Very impressive Stephen , the texturing really adds to the over all effect . I will be trying this on the next build I do . I'll practice on the Roden lozenge first so I don't screw up the good ones . Thank you for sharing this info ands tips on how to improve the appeance of lozenge decals .

Hugh , Stephens tip of the 50/50 of white glue and water works very well . I have used that method before . I didn't have luck with the gloss so I ended up using Micro scale decal film .
The gloss ended up ruinning the decals which I believe was my own doing from appling too much .
MerlinV
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 10:07 AM UTC
Thanks Guys for all the tips.
I actually had some success last night. I applied shorter lengths (so I did the top of the wing and the the bottom). I managed to complete the whole of the lower wing. . . Never the less... The Techmod sheet has insufficient rib tape to complete the aircraft model.

Cheers,

Hugh
JackFlash
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 01:51 PM UTC
I need to come up with some 1/32 5 colour myself.
MerlinV
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Posted: Thursday, September 25, 2008 - 03:42 PM UTC

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I need to come up with some 1/32 5 colour myself.



Such a thing is very easily done...

Cheers,

Hugh
JackFlash
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Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 - 05:44 PM UTC
I will see if the American connection has anything up their sleeves.
MerlinV
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Posted: Friday, September 26, 2008 - 10:01 PM UTC
Can print you a set up if you like.

Cheers,

Hugh
JackFlash
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Posted: Saturday, September 27, 2008 - 06:21 AM UTC
Thanks Hugh! Let me see if the American Connection is planning on some 1/32. The Roden Fok. D.VI may need some for the fuselage.

In the mean time here is a bit of fun on the comparison of the four colour lozenge. in unfiltered sunlight.


Here its inside with a flash.


Does anyone notice anything about this comparison that was not apparant before?
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 08:58 AM UTC
They're herrrrrrrre! See the gallery for the higher res images of my builds. Here is the word from Microsculpt's owner Tom Sollers.

"The site went live this morning. The URL is http://www.microsculpt.com

Thank you once again for all your support and time!!! I already have a sheet of Fokker serials partially designed. Feel free to pass along anything you would like to see. I am open to suggestions.

Future release schedule will depend on sales. I've about squeezed my wallet as hard as I can. I'll need some return in order to go forward.

Keep your fingers crossed.

Cheers! Tom "
SuccorPhysh
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 09:14 AM UTC
I can't get the link to work.
Hatter50
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 09:51 AM UTC
Here is the link........... http://www.microsculpt.com/

Regards
Steve
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 10:30 AM UTC
Most excellent. I just got out the Roden and Eduard D.VII kits and did some comparisons. I should have said, there is no real comparison. I hope these manufacturers will pack these into their kits in the future. Until then, I think I will have an order for at least one of each, and two of the texture. Where is that credit card?

And there will be a Fokker Streaked Camo in the future.
Dwaynewilly
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:55 AM UTC
This is great news! I will be doing a transfer to my Paypal account shortly. Most welcome indeed!

Dwayne
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 11:57 AM UTC

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Most excellent. . . Where is that credit card? Will there be a Fokker Streaked Camo in the future???



That is what he says on the website. I have seen some test shots. Not bad at all.
JackFlash
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 12:00 PM UTC

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I can't get the link to work.



Somehow we had quotation marks in there? Works fine now. By the way here is that last test I did of the five colour in unfiltered sunlight.

SuccorPhysh
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 04:25 PM UTC
Got it now. Thanks and they look good.
thegirl
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Posted: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 04:52 PM UTC
This is very good news . In ways I'm looking forward to the textured ones .