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Mengs M4A3 release date
ctkwok
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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 03:07 AM UTC

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Got to say the market from M4A3s is pretty saturated, so may affect sales and thus the decision whether to cut the tooling. As for too many kits for sustainability, I do wonder given the rate they are coming out from such small new companies - I hope they have their numbers right. But it is a shame they seem to dog-pile on the same subjects, rather than finding open corners of the market.



I doubt they're not going to release it if they could, they already have production models showing their suspension prowess on fb. It looks like a production delay. But hey with Chinese currency seriously devaluating, the delay may mean cheaper kits!

Of the batch of all these new manufacturers, Meng is probably most creative of the bunch, with fringe subjects like the Rolls Royce armored car and the Husky TSV.
m4sherman
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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 10:19 AM UTC

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So just looked again over at HobbyEasy,now it's gone from 8/8 released date to now 8/14.Im starting to think that this release just might not happen.


What is wrong with Tasca/Asuka Sherman kits? Why are you so sure Meng offering would be any better? Is it unique in some way? Just trying to make it clear for myself.


I like the Tasca Shermans, I have a lot of them. On all of the late HVSS kits I have, every single one of them has sink marks in the suspension that cannot be easily fixed. I am hoping the Meng M4A3 is better. I will only know after I get the kit in my hands if it is better or worse than the Taska kits.

And, I now understand your critique on the Meng Panthers, having done a comparison with my books and the Takom kits I have. I got mine cheap, so I will build them anyhow.
SEDimmick
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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 12:26 PM UTC

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Scott, it matters based on the financing you are using. If you start with a chunk of cash and loans based on long term repayment you have fewer cash flow problems. If you start with a large chunk of short term loans and not much cash, your production/design costs might overwhelm your sales returns early on causing havoc with your cash flow.



Right, but without seeing Meng's financials, this is all hearsay.

The only thing we know that is happening is the kit is being delayed-which is making a mountain out of a mole hill.

If X company makes X model, that doesn't make Y company any money of X model, if they decide to make the same product.

Part of the reason Dragon never came out with the M3 Lee or M4A3E2 Jumbo was they didn't see the return on investment, even though they where 50% or better the way there already with current molds cut. But obliviously Tasca/Asuka found a market for it and Takom found it with the M3 Lee/Grant more recently.

I don't thing Meng is in trouble financially, they released their Pansir AA vehicle recently and I'm assuming the delays are related to fixing issues with the Sherman or production issues.
ctkwok
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Posted: Tuesday, August 06, 2019 - 11:44 PM UTC
Good point about their Pantsir. It seems to be released very quietly as my go to model sites didn't review or even announce its arrival so I missed it.
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 01:29 PM UTC
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I like the Tasca Shermans, I have a lot of them. On all of the late HVSS kits I have, every single one of them has sink marks in the suspension that cannot be easily fixed. I am hoping the Meng M4A3 is better. I will only know after I get the kit in my hands if it is better or worse than the Taska kits..



The Meng Sherman isn't going to help you as it is a VVSS M4A3
Al
m4sherman
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Posted: Wednesday, August 07, 2019 - 01:42 PM UTC
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I like the Tasca Shermans, I have a lot of them. On all of the late HVSS kits I have, every single one of them has sink marks in the suspension that cannot be easily fixed. I am hoping the Meng M4A3 is better. I will only know after I get the kit in my hands if it is better or worse than the Taska kits..



The Meng Sherman isn't going to help you as it is a VVSS M4A3
Al


Typo on my part, I meant the VVSS kits. I was just looking at the RFM thread before posting.

The problem, not a simple fix:

jekrott
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 08:11 AM UTC
Update release now pushed back to another date 8/19 as of now!Bet it's pushed off again by 8/18.This is now laughable.
Wierdy
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 08:28 AM UTC
People have been 'buying' and 'selling' them on Ebay for almost two months now
jekrott
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 08:58 AM UTC
Haven't seen anything on that.Mengs M4A3 sherman?
tangodown
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 10:37 AM UTC
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=MENG+m4a3+1%2F35&_sacat=0
m4sherman
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 11:13 AM UTC
Had anyone received a kit? I'm still waiting on the one I ordered.
jekrott
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 12:23 PM UTC
I think those are based off of Preorders on EBay?late October receiving.Has anyone seen sprue shots or have one in hands.Something is off,not sure what but something is off
panamadan
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 12:40 PM UTC

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I think those are based off of Preorders on EBay?late October receiving.Has anyone seen sprue shots or have one in hands.Something is off,not sure what but something is off


I think so Ed. I'm crossing my fingers it does come out soon.
Dan
ctkwok
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Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 - 12:49 PM UTC
I wouldn't order from those eBay sellers without seeing any evidence Meng is releasing it at that time. So far Meng is offering zilch.
nsjohn
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 12:24 AM UTC
AMPS are reporting it as released on 17th August.
ctkwok
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 02:10 AM UTC

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AMPS are reporting it as released on 17th August.



That seems unlikely, but at least it's showing up for 30-day preorder in a bunch of sellers now so it seems to be coming soon.
KurtLaughlin
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 03:48 AM UTC

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AMPS are reporting it as released on 17th August.



Where on here does it say that?

KL
nsjohn
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 04:02 AM UTC
Sorry, it's the Hell on wheels blog on AMPS
SEDimmick
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 12:24 PM UTC
End the emergency -it came out 17th according to HobbyEasy who has it in stock now

https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/gst0aydjwnzdkk3cj3sk.html
panamadan
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 12:30 PM UTC
Thank God!!
m4sherman
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 01:27 PM UTC
Thanks for the heads up.
mudlark
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 06:25 PM UTC
But when is their next Sherman coming out?
jekrott
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Posted: Sunday, August 18, 2019 - 10:51 PM UTC
Hobbyeasy just sent a email to me.Its now SHIPPED!
Wierdy
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Posted: Monday, August 19, 2019 - 05:44 AM UTC
Well, finally!
Now we should wait for unboxing reports. It is always a good idea to know what you pay for.
27-1025
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Posted: Monday, August 19, 2019 - 08:16 AM UTC

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End the emergency -it came out 17th according to HobbyEasy who has it in stock now

https://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/gst0aydjwnzdkk3cj3sk.html



Great news! Another Sherman for the stable.