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Now Enlisting: Sopwith-Hawker-BAe Campaign
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2019 - 08:48 AM UTC
Well, aircraft manufacturer based campaigns seem to be a bit of a rage lately, so let's see about keeping that going. We've had two Soviet and an American company recently, so how about giving the Brits their due?

Sopwith Aviation needs no introduction as one of the premier supplier of aeroplanes to the British flying services in WWI. Unfortunately, as orders dried up after the war ended, so did Sopwith's business. Attempts at reorganization were unsuccessful and the company soon decided to liquidate. While some of the physical assets were sold off to other concerns, the aviation side of the business, including patents, designs, and so forth, were bought up by a new company called H.G. Hawker Engineering with none other than T.O.M. Sopwith as Chairman (hmm... coincidence? I think not.) This eventually became Hawker Aircraft and Hawker Siddeley before being merged in to BAe (British Aerospace.)

This campaign would focus on one of the oldest and most distinguished Aerospace firms in the world. Sopwith, Hawker, and BAe have supplied the U.K. with fighting airplanes since before the First World War until today. Lots of potential for an interesting campaign, I'd say!

What do you all think?

Michael
md72
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2019 - 12:51 PM UTC
Well Michael, to be honest, this isn't the direction I was hoping for when I floated a bunch of suggestions last month. Out of nearly 400 kits begging for my attention, there is but one that truly meets the criteria, an Academy 1/72 Sopwith Camel F.1. I don't think that an AV-8B qualifies as it was heavily reworked by McDonnell Douglas. I finished the Blackburn (Hawker Siddeley) Buccaneer for the RAF 100 campaign.
What about the T-45 Goshwak? It's root is in the BAe Hawk?
PasiAhopelto
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2019 - 04:53 PM UTC
Pup, Camel, Dolphin, Tempest and Harrier in stash, so count me in.
c4willy
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Posted: Friday, July 05, 2019 - 10:19 PM UTC
I'm nicely supplied with airframes Hawker and Bae count me in!
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2019 - 12:36 AM UTC

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Well Michael, to be honest, this isn't the direction I was hoping for when I floated a bunch of suggestions last month. Out of nearly 400 kits begging for my attention, there is but one that truly meets the criteria, an Academy 1/72 Sopwith Camel F.1. I don't think that an AV-8B qualifies as it was heavily reworked by McDonnell Douglas. I finished the Blackburn (Hawker Siddeley) Buccaneer for the RAF 100 campaign.
What about the T-45 Goshwak? It's root is in the BAe Hawk?



Mark,

If you haven't noticed by now, I have a "campaign problem". I'm constantly coming up with new themes. I suppose that's why they made me admin. Didn't mean to steal your thunder and I do think your ideas are good ones and look forward to seeing what comes of them!

The Harrier is definitely a Hawker design, McDD just borrowed it. Ditto for the Goshawk.

Michael
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2019 - 07:26 AM UTC
Hm did a Hurricane last year and a Harrier this year, did the Camel two years ago I think and not feeling like a need another one right now. However I do have the Typhoon in the stash...

EDIT: If Your looking for new ideas for campaign why not make justice to the extreme temperatures we have over here in Europe right now and do an African campaign ? Everything that flew in Africa, any war, any type. Could be an interesting bunch, including "traditionalists" with me-109s and Spitts to outright extreme eg Magister in Katanga or the Texans in Biafra or Cuban Migs in Angola
md72
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Posted: Saturday, July 06, 2019 - 02:23 PM UTC
Well, Michael, I too have a "campaign" problem. 1) I look to them for inspiration for what to pull out of the stash and get started. 2) I NEVER FINISH!

I'm about halfway done with a biplane, so the Camel is almost a no go. Not ready for another rigging project. The Harrier and the Goshawk offer encouraging targets.
phantom_phanatic309
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2019 - 06:03 AM UTC
Sounds good.
I've got about a dozen kits that would fit the bill.
b17-peter
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Posted: Sunday, July 07, 2019 - 07:18 PM UTC
Well, an interesting theme, I'm sure I'd give it a try.
My stash holds some qualifiers:
Hawker Typhoon, Sea Fury, Hunter, Harrier....
So count me in!
Cheers
Peter
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 12:56 PM UTC
Giving this one a bump. Seven so far, only three more to go!

Michael
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Posted: Thursday, July 11, 2019 - 07:26 PM UTC
count me in !

I've a couple of typhoon, tempest and hurricane in my stash
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Friday, July 12, 2019 - 12:26 PM UTC
Great Franck, that's 8!

Michael
phantom_phanatic309
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2019 - 12:21 AM UTC
Looking in my stash I found Airfix's Harrier GR.7, the first tooling from the early 90's. It's the last boxing of the kit which included decals and a set of extra weapon sprues for aircraft used during Operation Telic. I believe it's the same sprue they chucked in with their Jaguar GR.3.
From what I remember it's not a bad kit. I built the GR.5 boxing sometime around 96/97 and don't remember it giving me any problems.
So, a good opportunity to get this one built.



MichaelSatin
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Posted: Saturday, July 13, 2019 - 02:09 AM UTC
Sounds good Stephen, welcome!

Thant's nine! Only one more and we'll get this one in the queue.

Michael
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 - 12:50 AM UTC
Time for another bump. Only one more needed to get this one on the schedule!

Michael
phantom_phanatic309
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Posted: Sunday, July 21, 2019 - 11:11 AM UTC

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Sounds good Stephen, welcome!

Thant's nine! Only one more and we'll get this one in the queue.

Michael



Happy to join. Currently looking through my spares box to find some better things to put under the wings. The kits are a bit basic, but they do provide some really nice stencil decals for them. I know I have some better BL755's somewhere and Mavericks. I hope I have the launch rails, because Airfix forgot them! From what I remember, that was a common weapon load during Telic although I will do my homework before I commit.
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 12:45 AM UTC
Still waiting for one more enlistee for this one to get on the schedule.

Michael
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 03:57 AM UTC
I know Im stretching it a bit far here, but wasnt BAC the forerunner of BAE and werent they part of the SEPECAT project - eg designing the wings for the JAGUAR ?
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 04:11 AM UTC

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I know Im stretching it a bit far here, but wasnt BAC the forerunner of BAE and werent they part of the SEPECAT project - eg designing the wings for the JAGUAR ?



Man, that is kinda stretching things. I realize BAC became part of BAe, but before that they weren't part of Hawker Siddeley. So I'm including BAe because it's post Hawker Siddeley. I think going backwards to BAC would be going too far. Sorry!

Michael
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Posted: Monday, July 22, 2019 - 06:05 AM UTC
No problem. Im just trying to come up with an excuse to buy another Jaguar
Naseby
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Posted: Thursday, July 25, 2019 - 07:18 AM UTC
Ok. Im in. I bought the new Tempest from Eduard today.
john41492
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Posted: Thursday, July 25, 2019 - 11:57 PM UTC
I'm in! Got a hawk with Malaysian markings.
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Friday, July 26, 2019 - 12:32 AM UTC
OK, I believe we have enough now. I'll try to work up rules and get this one set up later today.

Michael
phantom_phanatic309
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Posted: Friday, July 26, 2019 - 12:47 AM UTC

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I'm in! Got a hawk with Malaysian markings.



That one will be great to see!
MichaelSatin
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Posted: Friday, July 26, 2019 - 03:03 AM UTC
This campaign is APPROVED. It will run from 1 September, 2019 through 1 March, 2020. If you want to view the rules and sign up, go here. I recently got the Tempest Royal Class, so I'm looking forward to this one!

Michael