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Meng's Me-410 B2/U2/R4
GazzaS
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Posted: Friday, October 12, 2018 - 04:47 PM UTC
HI Everybody,
I haven't done a blog on here in quite a while. I've decided to do one on a completely (new to me) air-frame. I've built a few of most everything else in my lifetime, but never an Me-410. So... here we go:

The interior:





After seeing how small the exposed area of the landing gear wells would be I decided that any effort there would be a waste of time:


There are some heavy details on the wing. Particularly a bunch of cloth circles that cover hardpoints. These I sanded down.... there'll be more on the stabilizers.


I'm doing mostly OOB here... I've heard that the spinners are stubby, so I'll see how they look when I get there. If it's not too bad I'll leave em' as-is. But if they bug me, I'll work something out.

Thanks for looking!

Gaz
ColinEdm
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 03:39 AM UTC
A good start Gaz!
magnusf
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 05:39 AM UTC
Gary! The 410 really is a looker! I've done two 110:s but never a 410. Good work on the cockpit but I don't think you should be scared of a bit of drybrushing, subtly carried out it will pop the details without washing out the colours. You can even selectively drybrush each different colour area with lighter versions of the base colours if you feel ambitious !



Magnus
c4willy
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 08:35 AM UTC
Niceeeeee Gaz! I love the Me410 and the Me210 as well it's those rear barbettes that do it I think. I built the Frog kit as a youngster and have liked it ever since. I have a couple of Promodeller versions to build but I'm looking for the Meng kit at a more reasonable price than the LHS has it at ($134 NZD!!!!).

I'm really lookng forward to your build buddy! Are you intending to run a wash through out the cockpit? And I concur with Magnus subtle dry brushing will really make that detail pop visibley especially if you modulate the colour a'la Steve's F104 build (the build is a stunner).
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 09:11 AM UTC
Colin,
Thank you!

Magnus,
Thank you! Thanks for the tips! I did a selective dry brushing later in the day, but I don't think I'll do too much more.

Chris,
Thank you! I did an acrylic wash earlier, and I've since closed up the fuselage. So I think I'm done in there. This interior gave me a chance to try some very recently learned technique and I put a lot more effort in than in any other previous interior.

The 210 and 410 have always looked futuristic to me. With the engines far forward and the unusual canopy framing and shape...and the barbettes, it really looks different from any other machine.

I bought mine off EBAY, but finding one cheap isn't very easy. They all seem to be around the 80$AUD mark. My LHS prices have gotten so high that the only time I buy kits there is when someone in the family gives me a gift voucher.

Gaz
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Posted: Saturday, October 13, 2018 - 07:47 PM UTC
Gaz,

You can find a good replacement for those spinners. Quickboost has some very good Me 410 spinners that are drop fit. I have the Monogram/Revell 410 (a thread is somewhere in Aeroscale) that got shelfed last year after completing the cockpit. On this kit the spinners are far too blunt so I grabbed those from Quickboost and they are a beauty.
Very nice cockpit there :-)

Cheers
Pedro
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 09:14 AM UTC
Pedro,
Thank you for the suggestion. I started work on the kit spinners yesterday, lengthening them a little. If I can't get the look I want, I'll try the Quickboost spinners.

Gaz
thegirl
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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 09:47 AM UTC
Nice start so far , looking forward on your next up-date . I have two in the stash .

The price I paid for the ones I have in the stash , I won't be investing in any aftermarket stuff so I also curios on how the spinner turns out .



Terri
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2018 - 02:59 PM UTC
HI Terri,
Thank you very much! As I'm at home watching football and modelling, you won't need wait too long for the update.

Here we go:

I got the engines in yesterday. There are no locator pins for the engines. They sit on a couple of raised ridges, but I wasn't sure of their placement. One thing I really hate is when I go to put on the spinner and it's not aligned properly.


Yesterday I also added two thin layers of card to the the joint between the bottom of each spinner and it's base plate.



I also worked on the weapons systems. I replaced some of the plastic barrels with 1mm copper tube.


The bomb bay could also be used to house additional forward firing armaments.


Thanks for looking!

Gaz
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018 - 12:11 AM UTC
Hi Everyone...
Slowly crawling forward with the build...










Thanks for looking!

Gaz
thegirl
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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018 - 12:35 AM UTC
You are making excellent progress so far . I do like how the spinners turned out . Over all fit looks pretty good




Terri
ColinEdm
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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018 - 06:06 AM UTC
Looking great Gaz.
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018 - 09:10 AM UTC
Thank you Terri and Colin!

Gaz
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Posted: Saturday, October 20, 2018 - 10:31 PM UTC
Good progress so far, Gaz! Will stay tuned to see how it turns out. To be honest I didn't know Meng had this kit out. I always think they just do armor ....

I have build the old Revell/Monogram kit years ago as one of my first airbrush attempts. In those days it turned out quite well but today I wouldn't want to show it on epos anymore ....

Happy modelling!
Torsten
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Posted: Sunday, October 21, 2018 - 04:36 AM UTC
Hi Gaz

A great choice of kit and nicely executed. The little extras and modifications you are making look like they will turn a good kit into a great model.

Happy modelling,

Steve.
GazzaS
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Posted: Sunday, October 21, 2018 - 05:55 PM UTC
Torsten,
Thank you! Meng has three versions out, so you have a few nice choices.

Steve,
Thank you! I don't mind a few little adds now and again.

Everyone,

A few steps today:













Thanks for looking!

Gaz
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Posted: Monday, October 22, 2018 - 11:28 PM UTC
Gary,

great build and thread as usual!
Very nice additional work and solutions for the issues.
Good idea with the prop shafts and the wheels. The pit and the WGr's looking pretty fine.

Th mas
GazzaS
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Posted: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 - 08:25 AM UTC
Thank you, Thomas!
I may have shortened the oleos a bit too much. I had just enough space to get the tires (which might be just a little large) and the landing gear cover on.

Gaz
GazzaS
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 04:33 PM UTC
Hi Everyone,
Got some paint on finally:











Thanks for looking!

Gaz
ColinEdm
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 04:36 PM UTC
I love your camo work Gaz! I'm hoping to work up to something like that, this will be a stunner when you are finished.
GazzaS
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Posted: Thursday, October 25, 2018 - 05:36 PM UTC
Thank you Colin!
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2018 - 07:26 AM UTC
The Cartograph decals went down easily and were perfectly in register. Unfortunately I don't know many of the stories of the men who flew these machines. So, I went with what I considered the most attractive set of decals.











Thanks for looking!

Gaz
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Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2018 - 07:53 AM UTC
Fantastic!
GazzaS
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Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2018 - 07:29 PM UTC
Thank you, Brian!
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Posted: Saturday, October 27, 2018 - 08:48 PM UTC
Great job Gaz. I have filed it away for when I get around to mine.Regards Phil.