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JClapp
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Posted: Thursday, November 16, 2017 - 02:07 PM UTC
it is two parts, you mix equal parts of each together.
it works like clay, add water to thin.
no shrinkage, cures rock-hard.


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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 02:52 AM UTC
Hi all

There are also different types of Milliput - various colours and the superfine white is well worth having in your arsenal.

I'm definitely feeling the tug to get started! The Eduard '190 is chugging along nicely, so I am perilously close to starting work on the Weihe. I just know it always ends in tears when I get distracted - I end up not finishing anything!

I know that once I start the Weihe it's bound to get messy, because I'll want to add more by way of an interior (there will be open holes inviting anyone to peer inside).

So - apologies for the late start... but it will need a proper run at the build to see it through.

All the best

Rowan
JClapp
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 03:01 AM UTC
not late, not even three weeks in. Definately, get your ducks in a row.
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 03:08 AM UTC

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not late, not even three weeks in. Definately, get your ducks in a row.



"DITTO" what Jonathan stated, it goes much swifter and less hair pulling when I have everything organized first.

Bob
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 03:33 AM UTC

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get your ducks in a row.



Cheers guys (I think...)

That's a phrase I've never come across this side of the Pond and I had to do a web search to figure out what that might mean!

I first read it as a euphemism for getting my a**e into gear!

All the best

Rowan
JClapp
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 04:49 AM UTC
I am sorry to say it is a bit of workplace managerial argot, but it is fun to say, unlike third party compliance audit or jurisdictional site inspection. ugh, {shivers}, talk about spoiling the fun.
anyway, onward
I bought paint today, for the WAL Electra

This decal is as old as the kit, I guess 1970s or early 80s at the latest. I'm sure i can save it with Microscale brush on decal film.
wiki has this marvelous Jon Proctor photo

Phoenix Arizona, October 1959.

PasiAhopelto
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 04:48 PM UTC
I'd like to join with SBS's Farman F.190 in 72nd scale:



Actually I was shopping for an interwar period passange plane for Pax and Packets campaign and couldn't decide between F.190 and Latécoère 28-3 by same manufacturer so bought both and decided to join also this group build. This will be my first resin aircraft, but not my first resin kit. I've built one ship and few scifi models earlier.

Aviafrance has quite nice picture of the original: https://www.aviafrance.com/farman-f-190-aviation-france-1002.htm
However I'm building all blue Air France version, it's probably from 1933 or later when the company was formed.
Mecenas
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 05:48 PM UTC
Hi folks!
It's high time to start the fun.

Very first cut.


And a quick presentation of the box content.














Here are the main parts after removing of the excess resin and casting blocks
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Bigrip74
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Posted: Friday, November 17, 2017 - 10:07 PM UTC
WOW! the first resin kits and two of them.

Welcome Pasi and Mecenas. interesting subjects I will be watching these builds.

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 02:03 AM UTC
Hi again

Nice one! It's great to see the new entries - both great subjects from excellent producers.

My Fw 190 is progressing pretty steadily (touch wood - I don't want to tempt Fate too much...) so, all being well, I'll see if I can convince those ducks to behave and stand in line so that I can make a start towards the end of next week.

All the best

Rowan
JClapp
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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 04:10 AM UTC
This will be a great campaign!

The weather here has turned foul, cold dark and raining, so I won't be doing any painting for a while. so I started the next kit, Welsh models L188 SL68 -

the parts are on two sheets. the kit includes metal props and wheels, in addition to the vacuform props, a nice decal, which I wont be using, and a really nice set of 1:144 scale drawings.

all cut out,

I'll start with the props, which will free up the metal ones for the JLM kit.



they look great!

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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 04:26 AM UTC

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The weather here has turned foul, cold dark and raining, so I won't be doing any painting for a while.



Hi Jonathan

When the heck did you move to the UK?! - we'd have had the welcoming party out ready for you!

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 04:34 AM UTC
Hi again

On a more serious note, it'll be great to see how those spinners and props turn out with a bit of TLC.

I'm really hoping this campaign will inspire a lot of our members to go that extra step and see beyond the basics in "cottage/short-run kits".

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 05:23 AM UTC

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The weather here has turned foul, cold dark and raining, so I won't be doing any painting for a while.



Hi Jonathan

When the heck did you move to the UK?! - we'd have had the welcoming party out ready for you!

All the best

Rowan



haha, I live in New England, it's just like the old country in November!
Bigrip74
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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 05:58 AM UTC
Jonathan, send some of that cold weather down here. It is still 80F and humid, I don't like sweating.

What is your process in making the vac props work for you? Ive always had problems.

Bob
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Posted: Saturday, November 18, 2017 - 11:16 PM UTC
Hai everybody,

I am watching your efforts and still building my B-52.

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I can't upload photo's anymore in the gallery as it tells me I have exhausted my 10MB ration.

Quite a bummer. I searched to become a subscriber (quite hard to find how to do that by the way) remembering that this gave more space in the gallery. However, 3.49 dollar a month for only 500MB won't cut it for very long considering that I can't use photobucket anymore. So this does not seem to be the right solution right now.

I have to think at what comes next I don't want a second photobucket issue.

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md72
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Posted: Sunday, November 19, 2017 - 12:02 AM UTC
Drab,

I ran across this thread and switched over to Imgur. I've been using it instead of PB or the KM gallery. Hope it's available in the EU.
JClapp
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Posted: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 - 06:49 AM UTC
I built the internal structures in the Welshmodels Electra.




also stuck the wing parts together. this is the more usual method of 1/144 scale wing construction. the dry fit is good, but Milliput will still be called in.


Anybody else working on a kit?

JClapp
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Posted: Thursday, November 23, 2017 - 06:04 AM UTC
Ive got the Welsh models Electra fuselage together.
set beside the JLM model, there are some distinct differences,
especially around the nose and cockpit glass. the wing tips are different as are the vertical tail profiles.


JClapp
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Posted: Friday, November 24, 2017 - 07:44 PM UTC
Oh, the Welsh models engines are much bulkier than the JLM, overscaled, id say, and not well profiled. I havent even added the fronts.


here it is next to a Hasegawa Orion (one of a pair of hanger queens)

the Hase engines are much closer to the JLM. I will have to modify the Welsh ones.
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 02:01 AM UTC
Hi Jonathon

Great progress - and some quite radical differences between the kits.

I must admit some of old (OK - ancient!) "cottage industry" vacuform kits I built left a lot to be desired in terms of accuracy. But, in a way, that was/is part of the fun of the genre; because you had to scratch-build so much yourself anyway, it almost encouraged you to go the extra mile sorting out problems. And because the original surface detail was often quite basic (if there was any...), again, you weren't afraid of damaging anything that you couldn't repair or even improve upon.

I should have a bit of time at home over the next couple of days, so the plan is to finally get that in-box review of the Weihe done and start work on the beast.

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, November 25, 2017 - 01:10 PM UTC
It almost feels like cheating with the S.B.S. kit:



Had to replace two parts with brass wire, but otherwise out of the box so far and no fit issues at all. I know that fuselage seams will need filling and sanding, but shouldn't be an issue.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 28, 2017 - 10:50 PM UTC
Hi folks!
I continue my fight with the kit. This is fabulous kit itself with outstanding fitting of the parts however here are still few things that may make it even better. I decided to add few details to the cockpit interior and engine. It's still a work in progress so there are few more things to be done.

I replaced the rudder pedals provided in the kit as the flat PE fret and made it using a thin wire and PE straps. Control stick is made of a thin wire, nylon fishing line and a cooper wire. The original one was far too thick (FUBAR).



Here are the cockpit sides. The added wires and plumbing are made of wire and stretched plastic sprue, depending on their thickness.





And a few pusher rods added to the engine. Working on these pushers is a nightmare. I tell you - one time I will hold my breath a bit too long and there won't be any more updates.



Mecenas
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Posted: Saturday, December 02, 2017 - 12:49 AM UTC
Hi again,
what's up vac-guys? Where are your progress reports? Your work looks great so please keep on pushing!

Here are my few steps forward. First improved parts from previous update. This time the cables are much more straight.



I'm working on the propeller. The endings were broken or placed too deep in the casting block. I don't know but I'm working on extending them a bit. I also filled two small air bubbles which were visible just under the surface - I was affraid that when pulishing they may come up so it was easier to drill holes, fill and sand down at the current step.



Engine pusher rods almost finished. I still have to replace few of them which are not straight enough.



And here's one of the exhausts - glued in place and drilled.



"Cowling" ring with removed original exhausts. I will scratchbuild these to make them "open".
Bigrip74
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Posted: Sunday, December 03, 2017 - 05:18 AM UTC
Macenas, beautiful work on the interior and engine.

I finally glued the fuselage together now to add some putty to make the seam go away then work on the cockpit and finally attach the wing.