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1/48 Grumman F6F-3 Hellcat (Eduard)
Venko555
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 01:55 AM GMT+7
Greetings!

I never made an US Navy aircraft, so I'm starting the famous F6F-3 Hellcat, one of the main fighters of the Pacific war. I will not bother you with the history of the plane (plenty of information on the net), so right to the business.
I've decided to go with USS Princeton scheme, with the colorful Shark mouth painting on the nose. Strictly OOB build, but you really don't need an aftermarket here, even resin wheels are included.
I bought new paints for the job (really like working with Gunze acrylics), I have also XF-17 Sea blue, but it has an awful greenish hue, so not recommended .





Regards,
Venelin

Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 04:06 AM GMT+7
Venelin,
I'm looking forward to following your build, as I'm a big fan of Leroy Grumman, Grummans, & USN aircraft.

The kit really has a great reputation from all that I've read about it. And I completely agree that Tamiya's XF-17 isn't even gloss to USN WW11 FS 35042 Non specular Sea Blue.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 09:09 AM GMT+7
I like you thought it was a shark mouth offering, but it is supposed to represent a cats mouth with blood shot eyes. I Look forward to your efforts and may even join in.
48thscale
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 09:11 AM GMT+7
Very nice kit of a very nice plane...I'm sure you'll enjoy this one.

PeeJay74
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 11:39 AM GMT+7
I love this kit, very nice choice!
Joel_W
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 11:41 AM GMT+7
Darren,
I've never heard that before about it being a Cats mouth and eyes, so I did a few Google searches and every reference to the F6F-3s on the USS Princeton said it's supposed to be a Sharks mouth and eyes. Granted it's the weirdest sharks mouth I've ever seen, but it had a really large cowl to cover.

Joel
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 12:36 PM GMT+7
I believe Darren is actually correct here.

VF-27 came up with the "Hell Cat" art while at Hawaii in the Spring of '44 as a means of improving morale among the pilots. Non-academy pilots were typically assigned to escort carriers while the big fleet carrier squadrons typically were home to the naval academy pilots who viewed themselves as better aviators. Princeton's VF-27 actually had the best kill ratio of all escort carrier squadrons, however when the ship was sunk off of the Philippines the surviving planes were absorbed into the fleet carriers and promptly lost their unauthorized nose art.

Early examples feature the bloodshot eyes, later ones typically lack it. There are a few later examples of it on all over GSB aircraft, such as the famous shot of Paper Doll.
Venko555
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Posted: Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 06:30 PM GMT+7
Thank you for joining with comments!

I assumed the artwork in the nose resembles a shark mouth in the beginning (because of the teeth maybe), but now it's seems more logical that it is indeed a cat mouth, as some of you pointed out-from the nickname "Hellcat" .

But in the end it's not so important for me, as long as it looks menacing and cool

Regards,
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bomber14
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2016 - 01:54 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Thank you for joining with comments!

I assumed the artwork in the nose resembles a shark mouth in the beginning (because of the teeth maybe), but now it's seems more logical that it is indeed a cat mouth, as some of you pointed out-from the nickname "Hellcat" .

But in the end it's not so important for me, as long as it looks menacing and cool

venelin the kit is excelent. one of the kits i most enjoyed building. and i also have known the cowl to be a cat's mouth but either way it is a sharp addition to the plane.

joe

Regards,

Joel_W
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Posted: Friday, December 16, 2016 - 07:07 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

I believe Darren is actually correct here.

VF-27 came up with the "Hell Cat" art while at Hawaii in the Spring of '44 as a means of improving morale among the pilots. Non-academy pilots were typically assigned to escort carriers while the big fleet carrier squadrons typically were home to the naval academy pilots who viewed themselves as better aviators. Princeton's VF-27 actually had the best kill ratio of all escort carrier squadrons, however when the ship was sunk off of the Philippines the surviving planes were absorbed into the fleet carriers and promptly lost their unauthorized nose art.

Early examples feature the bloodshot eyes, later ones typically lack it. There are a few later examples of it on all over GSB aircraft, such as the famous shot of Paper Doll.



Paul,
Thanks so much for the information. I never would have guessed it was true, since the Nickname for the F6F was the 2nd Cat aircraft from Grumman's.
Joel
Venko555
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Posted: Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 02:13 AM GMT+7
Proceeding with cockpit and engine. The engine is painted Chrome silver metallic from Gunze, and weathered with AK stuff. Some oils will be applied on the cockpit before closing in the fuselage.











Joel_W
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Posted: Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 03:59 AM GMT+7
Venelin,
Very nice job on finishing the engine. I must say that Eduard's 1/48 engines are the equal to Tamiya's in everyway.

And the cockpit really looks quite nice as well. What stands out for me is the seatbelts and Harnesses. They really look great. Are they Eduard's cloth belts and PE buckles? They certainly look so much better then their PE ones.

Joel


Venko555
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Posted: Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 04:29 AM GMT+7
Hi, Joel

The seatbelts are PE from the frets-the hardest work for me yet . You're right that the fabric belts looks better, although I haven't tried them, but in the future will use the latter instead.

Cheers!
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Posted: Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 02:11 PM GMT+7
Nice start , just might be the right inspiration I need to finish Eduards -5 late version that ended up being a shelf queen
Looking forward to your next up-date .



Terri
Venko555
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Posted: Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 08:32 PM GMT+7
Improving the Brownings as much as its possible, of course Master barrels are better, but I like the result with these. Black Surfacer 1500 for the base paint, then polishing with AK steel pigment for metallic shine:





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Posted: Saturday, December 17, 2016 - 08:53 PM GMT+7
I like your progress so far and I am waiting on the Master barrels to arrive before starting mine. I will be watching this build progress and looking for some tips during the journey.
Joel_W
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Posted: Sunday, December 18, 2016 - 05:02 AM GMT+7
Venelin,
Nice job on those .50 cal. MGs. Once drilled out they certainly do look the part. I did use the Master Brass machined .303s on my Mossie, and the level of detail was something I just wasn't expecting.

Joel
Venko555
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Posted: Sunday, December 18, 2016 - 09:33 PM GMT+7
Thanks!

Next, assembling the fuselage-no problems here. You have to be careful with the side windows though.
Engine cover is not glued to fuselage yet, only test fit. For the inside color of the cover there are three options, according to this reference:

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/05/stuff_eng_interior_colours_us_part3.htm

I chose Grumman grey, instead of Interior green or Zinc chrome, paint is Light grey from Gunze. The cover of the crankshaft is darker grey.







Cheers!
Joel_W
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2016 - 03:30 AM GMT+7
Venelin,

All Grumman aircraft made during the war at the Bethpage Plants had the interior of the cowl painted Grumman Gray. The actual color was made right here on Long Island and back then there was no ANA number for it. The best match as by the leading experts (certainly not me by any means) is FS36440. One or two shades one way or the other is no big deal.

If you're modeling a Grumman aircraft not made at the Bethpage plant but by a contracted aircraft company, then YZC was the accepted color.

Joel
Venko555
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2016 - 04:44 AM GMT+7
Joel, thank you for the info!
The paint I used is close enough to FS 36440 for me

Regards,
Venelin
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2016 - 05:09 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text

Joel, thank you for the info!
The paint I used is close enough to FS 36440 for me

Regards,
Venelin



Venelin,
That's the most important thing.
Joel
Venko555
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Posted: Monday, December 19, 2016 - 07:04 PM GMT+7
The seat is a bit on the thick side (like armored ) , but I decided not to add much aftermarket here, Ultracast has very nice resin seats though.

Venelin

Venko555
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Posted: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 - 10:00 PM GMT+7
Main assembly is done, no problems at all. Only a small filling was needed at one spot at the tail, but it's my fault. I wanted to try the new putty from Mr.Hobby here-it's very useful for small filling, semi-liquid, like toothpaste.
Also added the exhausts, you have to drill them for more realistic look







Regards!
Venko555
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Posted: Thursday, December 22, 2016 - 12:33 AM GMT+7
Primer Surfacer 1500









Cheers!