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Posted: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 - 01:28 AM UTC
Torsten,
It looks excellent! When I built my first p-47, I was impressed with the large number of stencils used.

Best wishes,

Gaz
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Posted: Monday, October 03, 2016 - 11:25 PM UTC
It felt like adding 1000 stencils to the kit (black stencils over Insignia Blue .... ), especially on the fuselage, but now the Bubbletop is ready for the final coating. Everything should be done by tomorrow. I have my last expo 2016 next weekend, so at least this T'bolt will join the party ....




.... I'll start with the Razorback as soon as I can so that I can finish this campaign hopefully within the next week.

Torsten
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 07:22 PM UTC
Torsten,
Progress with a Capital P.

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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 06:10 PM UTC
Just finished the Bodenglänzer session on both T'bolts. Now they look bright and shiny. I leave them to dry thoroughly until tomorrow evening and start decaling on the Bubbletop first.







And a fuzzy photo of the propellers ....


Torsten
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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 06:03 PM UTC
No problem at all, Rowan. We share a great hobby but there are more important things in life. I also don't respond immediatly.

This is the window cleaner that I use. You sure get something similar where you live. Just noticed, that I need a new bottle soon ....

... and this is especially for Joel. It's one of the position lights on my earlier Tamiya Thunderbolt "Hawkeye", which you can see on page 1. Not all lights fit that well, but well enough for me ....

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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 12:37 AM UTC
Hi Torsten

Sorry - I missed your reply about using Vallejo paints, so please forgive my tardy response. Thanks very much for the tip. I'll try some clear window cleaning fluid on the paints I've got. I think most of mine are "standard", not Model Air, but I guess the formula is similar, so it'll be worth a try. I love using an armoury of different paints on projects, so it's always bugged me that I'm obviously not getting the best out of Vallejo's range.

All the best

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Posted: Saturday, September 24, 2016 - 12:20 AM UTC
Damian, what OD brand did you use on your Razorback? Tamiya? Gunze? Just got a new Vallejo delivery on Friday and finally a new hose for my compressor. After 10 years of extensive use the old hose decided to retire and slowly broke to pieces .... Tomorrow will be the first day of action for the new one ....
Yesterday I glued all that landing gear stuff to the T'bolts and now I just finished detail painting. So tomorrow they will get some Bodenglänzer (Future) all over and hopefully in the evening I can show you some new photos.

Damian, the Hahnweide is normally a quiet glider airfield but every 2 years old warbirds and other classic propeller aircraft take over the field for a weekend. These beautiful birds come from all over Europe, mainly Germany, France, Great Britain and Switzerland. The P-51 I showed is just a hop away from the Hahnweide, maybe 50 kilometers, based in Albstadt. I heared, this year about 300 aircraft attended the show and about 25000 visitors per day. It's one of the biggest oldtimer air shows in Europe.

Have a sunny Sunday!
Torsten
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Posted: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - 03:13 AM UTC
Impressive work on both builds Torsten, the scheme on your Bubbletop came up beautifully. Great choice of colours. The OD finish on the Razorback is very nice indeed, I like the tone and the sheen level. I have never used it, but I will definitely give the Vallejo a try using your thinning recommendation.

Thanks for sharing those warbird images as well, I am incredibly jealous that you have such an amazing array of aircraft so close at hand.

Looking forward to more progress.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - 01:15 AM UTC
Joel, usually the position lights fit well to the wing tips. Sometimes I have to sand away a little mould seam but that is seldom. It's always the very last part I add to the model.

Rowan, I was often told that I don't need to thin Vallejo Model Air paints because they are ready made to use for airbrushing. That is nonsense!!! I've tested it that way and got some nice "orange peel skin" on the surface. First I tried to thin Vallejo with sole water which wasn't successful. After a while I've tested clear window cleaner (yes, window cleaner!) and that works perfect with Vallejo. I use only about 25 % Sidolin Window Cleaner. But it must be the clear one, I better don't test the blue liquid .... It also works with Revell Aqua paints generally but there I use a higher percentage (about 50 % ). But it only works with water based paints. If I use alcohol based paints like Gunze or Tamiya I take Isopropanol as thinner.

Torsten
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Posted: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - 12:31 AM UTC
Nice job Torsten.

How do you thin and spray your Vallejo acrylics? - for some reason I struggle with them. I bought loads years ago, but have never really got on with them very well (they've been great for detail brush-painting though).

All the best

Rowan
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Posted: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 - 12:09 AM UTC
Torsten,
The jug really looks good. I do have one question. I've never been able to really get the wing tip lenses to fit well enough to leave them off till after completion. Do yours fit that well with a little work to install them that way?

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Posted: Tuesday, September 20, 2016 - 10:41 PM UTC
Thanks Gary and Joel!
The Razorback also came out very well after demasking. Only a bit of spray fog had to be removed. Vallejo Olive Drab 71043 has become my favourite paint for OD. Just ordered a new bottle ....

For Neutral Grey I mostly take Medium Grey 43 from Revell ....


Just airbrushed landing gear and propellers. Hope to have glued all that stuff together by the coming weekend.

Torsten
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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 03:40 AM UTC
Torsten,
Outstanding camo paint scheme. Just as I expected it would be.
Joel
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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 02:48 AM UTC
Torsten,
Nice!
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Posted: Sunday, September 18, 2016 - 12:14 AM UTC
Joel, the 262 is owned by EADS and they have money, lots of money, believe me. It's one of the five replicas which were build in the USA several years ago.

The painting on the Bubbletop came out really well, as I wanted. Demasking a model is always like unwrapping a christmas present. You never know what you really get .... But here I have nothing to complain about.




Have finished OD on the Razorback today. Hope it comes out as well as on the Bubbeltop. I'll see tomorrow ...

Have a nice week!
Torsten
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Posted: Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 08:08 PM UTC
Torsten,
Thanks for sharing those fly in pictures. I would never have thought that someone could own such a rare aircraft as a Me262, and in flying condition no less. Talk about having money.

The camo paint scheme on the bubble is really come out quite nice. You're painting skills are certainly up there with the very best of them.

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Posted: Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 01:03 AM UTC
This is the reason why there was no earlier update. A bit here but I'm sure you accept it.
Last weekend was the Hahnweide Festival, one of the biggest oldtimer aircraft festivals in Europe. It's near Stuttgart, only 100 km away from my home. It was hot there, really hot and of course no shade. I made only a few photos, more videos (with sound!!!!!) and these are a few of them. Enjoy!

Dassault Flamant

Douglas Skyraider

Spitfire Mk. XVI

awesome flightline

a beautiful restored Yak 3



Yak 11

P-51 D Mustang

Klemm Kl 25, the oldest registrated aircraft flying in Germany, built in 1927

beautiful painted Boeing Stearman

Stinson Reliant

can't remember the name but it's a beauty

Focke Wulf Fw 44 Stieglitz

Hawker Hurricane

AT-6 Texan

T-28 Fennec (french version of the Trojan)

Junkers Ju 52 "Aunt Ju", still with its original BMW engines, based in Dübendorf/Switzerland

Antonov An-2 "Aunt Anna" in NVA markings

P-40 Warhawk, one of my favourite warbirds ever (awesome sound!!!)

and finally this bird ....


There were a lot more like a Fokker Dr. I and a Fokker E III but of them I have only small videos. Also Fieseler Storch, many Yaks and other birds I don't really know but they were out of my sight to take good photos. But I'm pretty sure you like my little selection here. It was a great day at the hot, hot Hahnweide, smelling Kerosine.

Torsten
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Posted: Saturday, September 17, 2016 - 12:29 AM UTC
There has been no update last weekend in this thread and I apologize for that. I will tell you later why.
Well, at the moment I concentrate on the Bubbeltop and this is how far I came ....
First Silver 90 from Revell on the underside and masking ....

.... a lot of masking ....

.... then it was Azur Blue time all over (Vallejo 71108). Uuuuaaaah ....

.... on Thursday Isignia Blue (Vallejo 71091) joined the party and now it looks pretty cool ....

.... the left fuselage side is a bit hypothetical as I have only a top- and a right side profile of this bird. But I think I came close ....


Demasking will start tomorrow ....
Right now I mask the Razorback after spraying Medium Grey (Revell 43) on the underside. Tomorrow will be another airbrush session with OD (Vallejo 71043).

More to follow so stay tuned!
Torsten
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Posted: Friday, September 09, 2016 - 12:47 AM UTC
Thanks Nigel for your explanations. Sorry for my late reply but I had not much time for the computer and no bench time for 3 days, as I had my family from the north here in the hot southwest.
In fact I'm no fan of mixing paints so I decided to use Azure Blue 71108 from Vallejo. It's the same colour as on my latest Spitfire IX, which you can see above. For the darker blue I will use Insignia Blue 71091, also from Vallejo.
Just airbrushed the underside of the Razorback in Neutral Grey. Hope to get some work done this weekend. Photos follow ....

Have a nice weekend!
Torsten
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Posted: Monday, September 05, 2016 - 05:09 PM UTC
Looking back at a 63rd M I built a few years ago, the build thread states,
"The rudder was painted using the mix recommended by Tamiya..2 parts X16purple, 2 parts XF8flat blue and 1 part XF-2 white.
The other blues I mixed up myself. The lighter blue was 3 parts Vellejo white(001)/1 part Dark Blue(053). The darker blue was 3 parts Tamiya X3 (royal blue)/ 1 part XF17(sea blue)"
Turned out ok for me.



http://www.aeroscale.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=features&file=view&artid=2263
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Posted: Monday, September 05, 2016 - 03:12 PM UTC
Thanks again for your feedback, guys!
Damian, I think that thread is quite helpfull for me. Haven't read it all yet, but I think I'll give Azure Blue a try.

Torsten
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Posted: Monday, September 05, 2016 - 05:32 AM UTC
Torsten,
I doubled checked what references I had, and Azure Blue seams to be the oval choice. I also did a quick run through the thread that Damian posted, and Azure Blue is mentioned there as well.
Joel
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Posted: Monday, September 05, 2016 - 02:33 AM UTC
Hi Torsten.

Solid progress once again, and a great start to the paintwork.

Check out this thread on P-47 Heaven for a discussion on the blue issue.

I hope this gives you the info you need.

Cheers, D
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Posted: Monday, September 05, 2016 - 01:09 AM UTC
Joel, thanks for your suggestions. Azure Blue? Are you sure? Just like on my latest Spit? Isn't that too bright?
Thanks a lot for the hint with the P-47 Heaven. Didn't think about that but I will check it out for sure.
Did some painting today and airbrushed NMF on the underside of the Bubbletop. But I have no photo to show.

Torsten

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Posted: Saturday, September 03, 2016 - 07:56 PM UTC
Torsten,
I'm no expert, not even close to it, but from what I've read and copied for my files when the time comes for my builds of some of the 56th P-47Ms, for the darker blue Insignia Blue, for the lighter shade of blue Azure blue, and a medium blue for the rudder should get you close.

It's been a long time since I read through all the incredible information available in the P-47 Heaven SIG. I'm pretty sure you'll find the consenting opinion on the proper colors there.

Your progress is still way faster then mine. Heat, nor humidity are an issue at my home, so weather really can't be used as an excuse for lack of progress. Work these days seem to put a huge dent in my free time. I've already informed the powers to be that as of 10/1 I'm going back to just 4 days/32 hours.

Joel