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C-130B Hercules
jonvan
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 09:14 AM UTC
I am going to start a C-130B using the old Revell 1/140 kit which dates from 1956. I was originally going to do a C-130E from the 70s in SEA camo but this kit has no wing tanks. So I decided to do it as a B model which rarely had tanks. I am thinking of an early 60s bird with NMF. I am also attempting to do some scratch building, a rudementary cockpit with a couple seats and maybe control yoke and IP. Not sure how much can be seen through these tiny windows. So far I have the deck and bulkhead built and painted. The colors are close, I have no real good close up pictures of the interior so I am using what I find on line. Here's where I am at. I started the scratch building with paper templates, then when they fit good enough I committed them to .015 plastic card stock.---John
Herk 1 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 2 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 9 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 09:18 AM UTC
Here is the cockpit floor and bulkhesd installed and given a coat of paint. I will be designing up the seats next.---John
Herk 4 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 8 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 10:01 AM UTC
This is the color scheme I am basing my colors on. It will be close but not exact, especially in the odd 1/140 small scale.---John
C-130 69-6580 cockpit by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 10:19 AM UTC
I found a color I had made 2 years ago for a C-130 project that never got off the ground, so to speak. I think this looks close to the cockpit photo I posted, looks more like seafoam green to me.---John
Herk 10 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
JClapp
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 12:00 PM UTC
Nice project. I love "classic plastic".
The cockpit will be well worth doing, it will be fairly visible inside that greenhouse.
jonvan
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 09:36 PM UTC
Thanks, I have 3 reasons to do this project, I have always loved the Herks looks, they buzz my home every week and my older brother was a Herk maintainer back in the early 70s at Forbes AFB. This one just fly over about an hour ago, I live close to Clearwater USCG Station in Florida.I believe this is an HC-130H---John
IMG_6604 (800x533) by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 - 11:09 PM UTC
These are some plans I sketched out a few years ago to scratch build seats for a 1/144 Hercules. I want to see if they are feasible in such a small scale.---John
C-130 Hercules seats in 1-144 1 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
JClapp
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Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 - 12:36 AM UTC
Of course they are feasible. You should see the stuff 1/144 scale modelers get up to.

Here is my own humble effort at a cockpit design for 1/144 scale P2V-7

jonvan
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Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 - 12:49 AM UTC
That's quite the job you did on that 1/144 cockpit!---John
JClapp
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Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 - 12:51 AM UTC
Alas, still not finished.
here it is before closing up

That reminds me, don't forget the nose weight!
jonvan
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Posted: Wednesday, June 29, 2016 - 03:23 AM UTC
Here's my start to the seats. Needs some refinement but moving right along.---John
OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2016 - 01:27 AM UTC
The seats are in, I am going no further on the interior. It's a waste of time as nothing can be seen. The "glass" is so thick and distorted it would be a waste of time detailing things unseeable through that "prism". Now to add weight and close it up.The Minicraft 1/144 kit came in today and has decals for a NMF B model from the 60s so I can use those for this build and find aftermarket E decals for that SEA camo build. I will check out the Minicraft glass to see if it's any better to see inside. Revell's is horrid.---John
Herk 15 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2016 - 06:36 AM UTC
I added some weight in the nose and wheel well area and glued it shut. I also added the rear cargo door and ramp, puttied them
up and the fuselage. I left the side forward cargo door off to add more weight.---John
Herk 18 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
JClapp
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Posted: Thursday, June 30, 2016 - 01:49 PM UTC
too bad, I guess not surprising, the vintage window transparencies are so poor. Minicraft took an altogether different approach.
jonvan
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Posted: Saturday, July 02, 2016 - 01:01 AM UTC
The fuselage is all cleaned up and sanded down and I have the wing halves together.---John
Herk 21 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 20 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 09:29 AM UTC
I have the wings and horizontal stabilizers attached. I think I need to do some minor adjusting on the wing dihedral, not as radical as the Intruder was though. There is also quite a gap between the area on the bottom of the horizontal stabilizers and the cargo door ramp.---John
OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 09:44 AM UTC
Here's a picture of the C-130B I am modeling. It's from the early 60's, when they were in NMF. The Minicraft kit has the decals for this plane, 61-0950.---John
C-130B 610950 1964 Germany by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Monday, July 18, 2016 - 08:22 PM UTC
The wing is opposite of the Intruder problem, it drooped down and this droops up, tried pressure but I may have to use hot water, it's stubborn. The gap in the tail to cargo door area looks like a penny slot, maybe I should use it as a bank?---John
Herk 23 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 24 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 - 07:10 AM UTC
I added more weight, some lead car tire weights, to the backside of the cockpit bulkhead and closed up the side cargo door. The slot I filled by the cargo door-tail area needed a second coat of Tamiya putty. I will be scratch building the jet exhausts for
the engines next.---John
OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 26 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 27 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Posted: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 - 02:58 AM UTC
I've made the exhausts from 5/32" diameter Evergreen plastic tube. I had a left over piece from my previous Revell C-130 build so I used it as a template to make these. I cut the angled end at about 45 degrees and left about 2mm from the engine cowling to the short end of the 45 degree cut.---John
Herk 29 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
Herk 28 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
john53
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Florida, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 06:53 AM UTC
I finally got around to sanding down the tail door ramp area and scratch built the nose wheel door. The original was two piece with a door on the right and left side of the nose wheel well. This never was, I have no idea where Revell got that bogus idea.---John
OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by jvandeu53, on Flickr
KelticKnot
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Scotland, United Kingdom
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Posted: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 - 03:39 PM UTC
This is coming along really well! I must have a go at a small scale plane just so that I can appreciate the subtle differences in techniques.
john53
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Florida, United States
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 12:54 AM UTC
Just unmasked,I used Tamiya spray can lacquer TS-30 Silver Leaf.
Once it's dry I can do the detail painting, nose, window frames,
position lights etc.---John
Herk25 by jvandeu53, on Flickr
OLYMPUS DIGITAL CAMERA by jvandeu53, on Flickr
jonvan
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Massachusetts, United States
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Posted: Thursday, August 25, 2016 - 04:17 AM UTC
The posts by me above somehow got under my armor site name john53. Please excuse the mess as I don't go to the armor site anymore nor do I know what happened.Thanks--jonvan NOT john53---John Confused yet I sure as hell am!!!!
jonvan
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Posted: Friday, August 26, 2016 - 07:35 PM UTC
I am at a bit of a stand still on this project. The kit props are bad, actually pathetic is more like it. The cone shaped spinners are totally out to lunch for shape and way oversized. The prop blades are almost passable. I have used Aeroclubs aftermarket before but don't think they are in buisiness? I found a shop that sells them, Joe's Models, in NJ but have had no reply to my e mail asking about their availabilty. Is there anywhere else anyone knows of where I can purchase Aeroclub props? I have also thought of putting in ads for 1/144 Minicraft props from persons using spinning blurred props who have these in a spares box. Thanks---John