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Viggen JA 37 build
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Posted: Thursday, March 12, 2015 - 04:50 AM UTC
Tim,
The bottom weathering looks really very well done. From what I can see it's a random faded pattern. I've been experimenting with that technique, and done right, it's the closest I've yet to come to a realistic form of weathering and paint fading.
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 02:11 AM UTC
Thanks Joel, your comments are much appreciated.

I have had a good few sessions with the airbrush, this time concentrating on the upper surfaces. As with the under surface I used a few shades of grey progressing from dark to light. I did mask some of the panels protecting the grey primer for the first two applications of colour. I also used some of the under surface grey to lighten a few panels as well. Heavily thinned Tamiya paint was used throughout.

After everything was dry I applied a few coats of Klear and then I highlighted some of the panel lines with the Tamiya thinner I use to clean my brushes. If you look at any images of the Viggen in the two tone grey, you will quickly see how dirty these beasts can become.

Not too far from finishing.








To be continued……..
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 02:29 AM UTC
The weathering is coming along really nicely!



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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 02:33 AM UTC
Thanks Magnus
Painting and weathering is not usually my strong point, but I'm really enjoying painting this beauty. The trick with weathering is knowing when to stop.
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 02:43 AM UTC
With a Viggen, you have quite a margin before you reach "too much" !



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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 02:58 AM UTC
your right there magnus...
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 04:40 AM UTC
Tim,
Outstanding weathering on the topside. From the pictures I've seen, you really can't over weather the two tone gray scheme.
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Posted: Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 06:04 AM UTC
Tim,

Wow! That is some weathered gray! Excellent!
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Posted: Monday, March 16, 2015 - 02:47 AM UTC
Thanks Joel and Fred you have made my day
Just started decaling the beast this evening. I think it will take me a couple of evenings to complete the process.
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Posted: Monday, March 16, 2015 - 06:50 PM UTC
Tim,
I've heard some horror stories about those big wing numbers as they are kind of translucent. Hopefully, your decals will behave a lot better.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 04:40 AM UTC
I must admit Joel I was a little dubious about using the large numbers on the wing. I was thinking about making some masks and painting the numbers on. This being an out of the box build means that I had to find out how the decals would perform. I was very pleasantly surprised how well the large decals went on. Yes I used a lot of Microsol, I think I flooded the area around the numbers four times. Yes they are also very bright, but they are supposed to be hi visibility. Colour density over the grey is very good and there is no evidence of the carrier film. I have noticed a little silvering on the numbers on the tail fin, but this is possibly because I have not applied enough Microsol. I have only applied decals to the upper area and the sides of the model so far.
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Posted: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 06:07 PM UTC
Tim,
The big numbers look great. Nothing like the issues an problems my buddy had on ARC with his build. Maybe it was just a bad patch of decals. Anyway, yours looks great. Once sealed and a light over wash to blend everything together, they'll look just like weathered paint.
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Posted: Sunday, March 22, 2015 - 01:10 AM UTC
Hi all

I have been really busy these last few days, so I have not had much opportunity to work on the Viggen. It was pretty grim here today weather wise, so I had the perfect opportunity to get my head down and finish applying the decals on the lower surfaces of the Viggen. The image does not show the stencils at all, but there is a great deal of them. I have to say it was a very tedious task, but we would be moaning if all the stencils were not included on the sheet. As with the decals applied earlier the rest of the decals responded very well to Microsol.

To be continued……


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Posted: Sunday, March 22, 2015 - 03:25 AM UTC
Hi Tim, I've been watching your build from the beginning since the Viggen has always been one of my favorite jets.
Personally I'd have done the splinter scheme, but you've done a great job with the grays. The weathering looks fantastic as do the decals.
As usual Tim, great job

Later
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Posted: Monday, March 23, 2015 - 01:27 AM UTC
Tim,
Yep, you can't see the stencils in the bottom picture no matter how hard I try. How close is the stencil color to the paint color?

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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 05:50 AM UTC
There is a reason why I selected the grey finish for the JA 37 bdanie6. Special Hobby will be releasing the strike version the AJ-37 so I will purchase this and finish it in the four colour splinter scheme. I think Tarangus is releasing the two seat version: SK 37 and this also features the four colour splinter scheme. I also like the dirty look of the JA 37 and just fancied the appearance more. There seems to be an alternative disruptive finish sported by some JA 37’s, which looks like broad black stripes over grey. Incidentally Twobobs has a rather spectacular release if you fancy a bit of colour on your Viggen.

Joel I have taken a close up of part of the underside of the Viggen to show some of the stencils. I thought I had nearly finished applying them. But there are many more for the weapon pylons, happy days!!!

Well as you can see from the image below, I have added the fuel tank. Like the rest of the aircraft it is heavily weathered.

To be continued………


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Posted: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 - 11:22 AM UTC
Tim! The one with the disruptive black lines was really a display paint job, there was just one from F16 at Uppsala. It also had the "Mustang motif" from the J 26/P-51 era of the 1940ies prominently painted under the belly.

For operational schemes you are pretty much stuck with either grey or splinter (I'll be along for the ride when you do that one ).



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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 01:49 AM UTC
Hi Magnus

Many thanks for the info, it saved me a few hours trying to find more images of Viggens with stripy camouflage. I was becoming dubious about the camouflage scheme as none of the kit or decal companies were offering it as an option.

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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 02:48 AM UTC
It's actually a bit embarrassing that they designed a display paint scheme that people think is a camouflage ! Not really Red Arrows-style...

As for decals they might have been done by Red Bolt who did Alps-printed decals about ten years ago or so.



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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 03:18 AM UTC
Tim,
Thanks for the close up. It makes a big difference for these very old tired eyes.
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Posted: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 - 05:14 AM UTC
Magnus there have been some stunning demo aircraft in the Swedish AF. Also you have a heritage flight that is the envy of a lot of countries.

No problem Joel. I can hardly see them either, and I know where they are

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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 02:11 AM UTC
Hi all

I have made some progress painting the parts for the undercarriage. The doors I painted alongside the airframe a while back. There are a lot of parts for the undercarriage as you can see from the images below.

To be continued…….



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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 02:21 AM UTC
Just the easy part left now: sticking them all together!



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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 02:31 AM UTC
Funny I was just thinking it was a bit rash showing images of the undercarriage parts Magnus. If it all becomes to much putting it all together perhaps folk will notice if I left a few bits off. Then again there is always the rug monster lurking underneath my workbench, it has a particular fondness for anything plastic and small screws...
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Posted: Thursday, March 26, 2015 - 04:52 AM UTC

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Funny I was just thinking it was a bit rash showing images of the undercarriage parts Magnus. If it all becomes to much putting it all together perhaps folk will notice if I left a few bits off. Then again there is always the rug monster lurking underneath my workbench, it has a particular fondness for anything plastic and small screws...
tim



Tim,
The 1st time I saw the landing gear built up, I was quite impressed at just how complex it is. Looking forward to seeing yours assembled and ready for installation.

Just keep that Carpet monster at bay. Believe me I know 1st hand just how hungry they tend to be this time of the year.

Joel