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Trumpeter USS Missouri
warreni
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 12:02 PM UTC
Trumpeter''s new 1/200 USS Missouri arrived today. Here is a quick preview of what''s in the box.

Link to Item

If you have comments or questions please post them here.

Thanks!
DanielMoscatelli
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Montevideo, Uruguay
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 12:34 PM UTC
Enjoy my friend !!
Gremlin56
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 05:41 PM UTC
Nice one Warren, looking forward to the full montey review
Longshanks8
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Posted: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 - 07:40 PM UTC
Wow that's a big one
mparham02
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Posted: Thursday, November 21, 2013 - 02:23 PM UTC
How big is the completed going to be?
LionsDen
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2013 - 02:26 AM UTC
Does it look like there's a lot of raised detail that will need sanding off?
GastonMarty
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2013 - 08:00 PM UTC
Discussion here on the hull shape:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=154450&start=60

Gaston
Gremlin56
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Posted: Friday, November 22, 2013 - 08:05 PM UTC
Think you will have to return this purchase as well Warren,
pzcreations
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Posted: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 02:08 AM UTC
thats an odd looking bow ...guess thats a cold war road kill
warreni
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Posted: Thursday, November 28, 2013 - 09:19 PM UTC
Yep, it is going back tomorrow.. not!!
warreni
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Posted: Thursday, November 28, 2013 - 09:20 PM UTC

Quoted Text

How big is the completed going to be?



Approx 1.4metres.
Ascaria
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Posted: Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 11:45 PM UTC
Hi

I just pick up mine Mighty Mo, I have to admit that Bismarck look much more luxurious inside the box, but ship is great (instead of some discrepancies).








Hope that we will see soon IJN Yamato or HMS Prince of Wales in this scale (I will buy both of them )

Cheers

Wojtek

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GastonMarty
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Posted: Friday, December 13, 2013 - 03:23 AM UTC

I'm pretty sure that, besides the hull shape issues, the Missouri has a banana-shaped rising stern, which is due to the available drawings: I've looked at their 1/700 Iowas, and it is exactly the same as the most used drawings, and the same goes for the 1/200 kit.

If we want to know what the upcoming 1/200 Hood will be like, and good starting point would be to see the issues in the current Trumpeteer Hoods in other scales...

In the meantime, except for the excellent 1/200 Nichimo destroyers, I've decided to make the switch to 1/350 scale until the day genuinely serious kits come out in 1/200...

Gaston

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Posted: Friday, December 13, 2013 - 05:26 AM UTC
One of my suppliers is one of the US importers for Trumpeter, and they recently posted in their "coming soon" list of a 1/200 Iowa (not really much different than the Missouri), and a 1/200 HMS Hood, as well as a rumored USS Enterprise.

The Iowa is really no surprise, pretty much same ship, different markings (sans bathtub). Enterprise is not really a surprise either, since the Merit Hornet was designed and made by Trumpeter.

The Hood is a welcomed version. Can't think that the Yamato is that far behind, as they have done pretty much every famous BB from WWII.

Now....if they decided to do a modern USS Iowa/New Jersey, I would be tempted by that. Really not that much they would need to change. Different antennas, modern weapons, and a different stern for the helo deck.
GastonMarty
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Posted: Sunday, December 15, 2013 - 05:29 AM UTC

Very unfortunately, I would not hold my breath for a new 1/200 Yamato...

Trumpeteer has never made one, and they tend to stick with upsizing previous releases... The upcoming Abercrombie in 1/350 is an exception, but little of what they do is ever Japanese, and they maximize whatever "research" they can size up: If you look at what they did in 1/350, they are following it quite closely in 1/200... Also, unless they "invent" a new brand like Merit to cater to Japanese stuff, they seem to have an antipathy towards Japanese subjects, wartime issues still being touchy apparently...

Sadly I fear that 1/200, whatever its short term success may be, will wither from poor quality research, poor quality underdetailed hulls, and lack of a competition willing to make the scale "alive"...: The key issue is wether or not serious mainstream injection-moulding makers will join Trumpeteer in this scale, and I don't see this happening at all: To the point now that I would be very surprised if it did happen: It has been a while...

The size of this scale make it a too large mould investment for other makers, and without other makers joining the fray, people will tire quickly of one-sided Trumpeteer subjects, low detail levels and especially poor accuracy quality at a high price. Tamiya did the exact same thing with 1/48th armor, poor detail, initially poor accuracy and poor or mismatching "opposing" subject choices, and it failed to take off with any other maker: It is now essentially a dead scale for armor, as one company cannot really "make" a market all by itself...

Gaston
Ascaria
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Posted: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 - 09:40 AM UTC
Hi Scott,

hope to see 1/200 Yamato soon, I heard rumors about big KGV and PoW from Trumpeter. Hope to see one of them under my Christmas tree in 2014 or at last 2015

Did I mentioned that I need big Christmas tree ?

Cheers

Wojtek
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