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Subject: La Marseillaise Campaign
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 10:51 AM UTC
It being May 8, It is the start of the campaign that is a salute to French aircraft - La Marseillaise

hopefully I've got the banner for the title correct.

Again, I'll be doing one of these:



but won't be getting going till June.

Please post build updates here, or at least link over to your threads. And don't forget to get photos of the finished product in the
campaign gallery

sign up here

(Can an administrator tack this thread please?)
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 11:02 AM UTC
Its about time to kick off the campaign and I don't know what happened but I've got this thing for building WWII French aircraft all of a sudden. It started with the Bloch MB 155 that I'm building for the Stripes campaign. Now I have a shelf stacking with french planes. So here are the two kits that I' going to build for this campaign:




Here's the Bloch I've already waded into for the Stripes campaign:




Bwahahaa, there. now we've finally got this thread on track.
Say, care to give us a peek at the d501 kit out of the box? If the kit is nice I might have to add it to the stash.



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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 11:31 AM UTC
I've been looking forward to the start of this, it fits in with my sudden urge in 2008 to build some colourful Mirages. As with most 'urges', there's always a catch. In this case, the availability of the Airfix / Heller 2000C and 2000B/n kits.

This is my only two seater kit in the stash and this is the aircraft I will be building.



Here's the obligatory shot of 'Le Bits'. The standard Airfix kit will have the renaissance cockpit set and aircraft detailing set, a pair of resin drop tanks and, without which the model would be stillborn, those excellent Syhart Xfers.



Have to clear the decks of my Dragon Bf110 first though.

IAN
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 06:42 PM UTC
Here's my choice:



I started working on the cockpit, not much detailing but good fitting.
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 07:42 PM UTC
John I am sorry but Tempest is british aircraft. It should be french built aircraft, french markings on foreign aircraft don't count.

I am building a finnish Morane Saulnier M.S 406 for this campaign. I just need to clear my WIP models desk first.
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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 08:03 PM UTC
Hi all,

I'm majorly over-stretched with campaigns, but I couldn't say no to this one. I'll bekeeping things small in order to have a quick build (famous last words ...)

I'll be throwing together a Rafale from Revell in 1/144:



All the best,

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Posted: Friday, May 08, 2009 - 09:41 PM UTC

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Here's my choice:



I started working on the cockpit, not much detailing but good fitting.



Yeah, sorry John, the campaign is for French produced aircraft, though they can have other nationality markings - but the rules specifically state no aircraft solely produced by other nations, even if they are in French markings.

I hope you haven't invested too much time in your Tempest (though I am sure there are other campaigns it will qualify for), and that you can find something French-made for this one.
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 04:36 AM UTC
Hi, I'm very new here, but I'm very keen to join the fun. I'm not very good (seriously, that's no false modesty) but I'll do my best!
Anyway, a quick trip to the nearest hobby shop found me this baby:-


And a look at the sprues:-


It's classic Airfix, basically. Raised panel lines, not too many parts, almost no interior. But it is an aircraft I like, so I'm inspired. I've had some bad experiences with Airfix 'brown-backing' decals (they disintegrate), so I think I might get some after-market decals. Otherwise, I'll go OOB.
Right, I'm off to wash the plastic, then look at some photos on airliners.net!
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Hi, I'm very new here, but I'm very keen to join the fun. I'm not very good (seriously, that's no false modesty) but I'll do my best!
Anyway, a quick trip to the nearest hobby shop found me this baby:-


And a look at the sprues:-


It's classic Airfix, basically. Raised panel lines, not too many parts, almost no interior. But it is an aircraft I like, so I'm inspired. I've had some bad experiences with Airfix 'brown-backing' decals (they disintegrate), so I think I might get some after-market decals. Otherwise, I'll go OOB.
Right, I'm off to wash the plastic, then look at some photos on airliners.net!



Hi Simon,

I am very interested in your build, as I have wanted to do a Mirage F.1CZ ever since I lived in South Africa 5 years ago. Even though I work in 1/48, this will be interesting to me. Have you seen the really cool South African camo schemes for this bird?

this is the one I am really keen on:


I have some fairly unique references (only printed/distributed in South Africa) on the South African F1s. If you are interested, let me know.

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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 08:34 AM UTC
Ok, no problem.
I'll have to find something else.
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Posted: Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 11:00 PM UTC

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Hi Simon,

I am very interested in your build, as I have wanted to do a Mirage F.1CZ ever since I lived in South Africa 5 years ago. Even though I work in 1/48, this will be interesting to me. Have you seen the really cool South African camo schemes for this bird?

this is the one I am really keen on:


I have some fairly unique references (only printed/distributed in South Africa) on the South African F1s. If you are interested, let me know.




The South African option in the box (described as '206' of 3 squadron South African Air Force, Waterkloof, 1980s) is quite different to that, with much more camo colouring. But I want nothing to do with Airfix decals, so I've ordered this from Hannants:-

Looks to have quite a selection. Hopefully it will get here before long.
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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 04:12 AM UTC
Made a start on the Mirage today. I honestly looked long and hard at the idea of scratching together some kind of tub to go into the cockpit - but there's just so little space in there once the seat goes in that for a man of modest talents such as myself, it just didn't seem worth it. Fortunately the predominant colour for the interior is black, so I just turned the inside into the black hole of Calcutta and done with. Tried to dry brush some detail into the dash and seat, and I did scratch some harnessing out of foil and ejection hoops out of wire. Put the fuselage together as best I could, but I've still had to put squadron white all the way around the seam. Ah well.... Not bad for a days work.

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Posted: Monday, May 11, 2009 - 05:19 PM UTC
Now that the time has arrived i've actually lost interest in my original planned subject choice- HB's Mirage IIIC. Instead i'm going to do a Nieuport 17 from Eduards Weekend Kit. I'm not sure yet if i'll go for the box decal option or use one of several other options i have sitting in the spare decal box- the Polish option i have looks interesting.

I'll be able to make a start now whilst i'm experiencing down time on the Carrier campaign Skua.



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Posted: Friday, May 15, 2009 - 08:12 PM UTC
Here's the first progress report on my Nieuport 17 for this campaign. Nothing much to comment upon for this one, very straight forward model to build in it's weekend version. Though to build the kit decal option accurately then don't do what the kit tells you and use the overwing Lewis gun. The aircraft was fitted with a Vickers in front of the cockpit, luckily i have a spare from another kit.

Primer on and ready for the colour, but this is a fill in build at the moment for those times i'm waiting for something on the SH Skua.



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Posted: Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 09:21 AM UTC
is it okay if i put the aiplane in a diorama, cus i have a ms 502 with utterly destroyed landing gear,(my cat is responsible for that,) and i wanted to make a crash scene. i still need to decal and paint the bird though.
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Posted: Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 09:29 AM UTC
Any thoughts on cockpit interior colors for WW2 era Dewoitines? I've heard "blue grey" or "grey" or even "dark blue". The remaining examples I have color photos of are predominantly black. (but I'm unsure if this is due to careless restoration or is intentional.)

Did the french have anything close to a standardized interior color or did each manufacturer have its own ideas on the matter?

The biggest challenge is that there are so few examples of some of these birds in existence..

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Any thoughts on cockpit interior colors for WW2 era Dewoitines? I've heard "blue grey" or "grey" or even "dark blue". The remaining examples I have color photos of are predominantly black. (but I'm unsure if this is due to careless restoration or is intentional.)

Did the french have anything close to a standardized interior color or did each manufacturer have its own ideas on the matter?

The biggest challenge is that there are so few examples of some of these birds in existence..

Cheers,
Fred



Hi Fred!

Dark blue is most likely correct. With dark I mean VERY dark, like USN Midnight Blue with a drop of black in it. Another paint used for internal parts was "chamois" that was a light-brown colour, it refers to chamois-leather so the paint match is easily found! This was as far as I understand used predominantly in places like the wheel wells and on the inner sides of wheel well doors but I think it sometimes was used in cockpits as well. I went for dark blue on both of my D.520s.

The French had standardized colours but the schemes they were applied in seem to have varied wildly with the production unit or maybe even down to the individual painter (no D.520 seem to look like the other for instance...).



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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:28 PM UTC
The Nieuport is done already. Not much to mention for this kit really, one of the simpler WW1 builds, especially in this weekend edition- i think i could have even finished it in a weekend if i wasn't occupied with another project at the same time.
These weekend kits are great if you have already built one of the limited edition kits, like i have, and still have some nice decals left over to use. And you can still buy the etched sets if you want.

It represents the Nieuport 17 of Rene Dorme. This aircraft may have been fitted with a penetrator spinner at some time, but not in the pics i've seen. Eduards box art also show it with clear panels in the wing above the cockpit, but again- i can't see this in any of the pics of this or aircraft in the same Squadron. But i admit i didn't research very deeply either.
Looking at it objectively now, i think i should have mixed some grey in to tone down the aluminium... i sort of thought that the flat varnish would tone it down a bit more than it did.






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Posted: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 - 08:32 AM UTC
Nice attractive scheme. Well done.
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Beautiful finish Andrew. Well done.
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Posted: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:19 AM UTC
Nice build, Andrew. It looks really nice.

That must be the first entry for this campaign. I have not even started yet....
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Posted: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:42 AM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys!

Jesper: yes it was a quick build, in fact i built it entirely in one week during periods of waiting for the filler to set on the Blackburn Skua Airedale Navy build. No point sitting there watching filler set...

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Posted: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 10:40 AM UTC
well, here is my build. its a crashed Moraine Saunier ms 502.




it got covered in dust by me tring to clean up my room but in reality just kicking up cluds of dust. lol is not old.
its the old airfix kit with decals from the academy one that a freind gave to me (the decals, not the kit.) and engine from the spares box. this model had been half built for a while.
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:48 PM UTC
Well the arrival of some decals brought the Mirage F1 back to the front of the workbench. Finished off the main assembly (note the use of filler of about every join line!)


And I even had time to throw some paint on (don't look too close, I had a few problems! I'll try and touch up a bit).


Decals and the fiddly stuff to do.
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Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 04:16 AM UTC
Looks good, Simon. The camouflage looks good to me.

Looking forward to see more
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Posted: Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 07:57 PM UTC
I started my build yesterday. I am going old school in this campaign with an old Heller 1/72 Bloch 174 kit. In the true spirit of the campaign the kit is of course also produced by a French company

The kit is old without any cockpit details and with very few parts. I almost finished it last evening while listing to the EU parliament debate on TV.

I will be painting it all by brush - true old school. I have not decided on the scheme yet, but there is only one scheme included in the kit, so I will probably go for that one although it is very tempting to make one of the Vichy machines with red and yellow stripes.

According to what I can find on the internet the cockpit is night blue, which seems to be very dark. The wheel bays seem to be a sandy khaki colour. Unless somebody has better information this is what I am going for.












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Posted: Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 08:44 PM UTC

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I almost finished it last evening while listing to the EU parliament debate on TV.



Jesper you really party HARD!!!

Nice subject though, do Azur do this one in 1/48 i wonder?

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Posted: Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 10:46 PM UTC
He, he, thanks for the comment, Andrew.

While trying to find the colours for the cockpit and the wheel bay I came across an example of the Bloch 174 in 1/48, but cannot recall the name of the kit manufacturer, but there is a 1/48 example out there.
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Posted: Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 04:06 AM UTC
These are my two kits for this campaign:



Both from Academy, the Spad is from 1984 (!). IŽll build them oob. Both have quite crude detail, the Spad doesn't even have a cockpit. I'll be rigging both of 'em, if I manage to find thin enough fishing line for the Spad.
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Posted: Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 06:09 AM UTC

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These are my two kits for this campaign:



Both from Academy, the Spad is from 1984 (!). IŽll build them oob. Both have quite crude detail, the Spad doesn't even have a cockpit. I'll be rigging both of 'em, if I manage to find thin enough fishing line for the Spad.



Saved! I just sold the kit O was originally going to build but have the Academy Neiuport in the stash! Phew!!

Would the Concorde count for this campaign?
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Current Builds..
1/35 Dragon Panzer I Ausf A for Blitzkreig II campaign
1/72 Academy B-17G for the Mighty 8th campaign
1/400 Revell Queen Mary 2 for my Wife. :-)
 
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