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Subject: Eduard 1:48 Spad XIII
LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 08:44 AM GMT
Good morning.

Thank you for receiving me here.


Everything is made in the airbrush ( humbrol paint 62 "orange brown" and 71+24 ) and oil paint for finishing.












Reinforcement in metal (lead) on the ruder.




The bridge is painting with Humbrol 62. When dry we put clear and darker oil painting to make veins of wood and shades.






I added 2 stems on the left side. They are not "into the box"...







Pressure gauge and other one are very very small...











We can see many things by the holes of ventilation on each side from the hood. I want to leave them opened so I thinned both steel plates a bit by inside and blocked the hole with some plastic (blue).









Both oval protuberances are "thermoforming" on a shaped fragment of resin or plastic and the engine bearer is cut up from the plastic card.





I did again "levers" with photo etch parts "rounded up" in sandpaper. The lever in her even is a small piece of photocut.






The plate is photo etch parts.













The stem blue is a piece of "square" plastic stretched above a flame. It keeps its square form.












Always slower:






I returned the edges of the opening more slim and added some raidisseurs in metal and pieces of plastic.






Some pieces of copper and tin:







The plate in alu (too big here) comes from a dish to industrial pie:




The reservoir was repainted in grey more " blue " and the handle in red for 1918 " dump valve" (vide-vite). Blue is not so blue on my kit...





A bientôt.


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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 06:43 PM GMT
Excellent build! Model On!

Here is my Eduard build.

Click Here.

There are some original images there. Hope it helps.
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TedMamereLocation: Moselle, France
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 11:02 PM GMT
Hi Louis,

Excellent start indeed!

Where exactly are you from if I may ask? We are living not far away it seems...

Jean-Luc
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Than think five minutes and build an hour!
 
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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 11:39 PM GMT
Salut Jean Luc

J'habite entre Saverne et Strasbourg dans le fin fond du bout du monde, à Scharrachbergheim, et toi ?

I try to translate for our friends:

I'm living in Scharrachbergheim, a pretty village near Strasbourg.
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TedMamereLocation: Moselle, France
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 11:57 PM GMT
Re-salut Louis,


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J'habite entre Saverne et Strasbourg dans le fin fond du bout du monde, à Scharrachbergheim, et toi ?



Moi j'habite à Loupershouse près de Puttelange-aux-lacs.

J'ai une tante à Saverne et mes grand-parents habitaient près de Dabo à une époque. Je connais (un peu) le coin. peut-être qu'on aura l'occasion de se retrouver sur une expo de modélisme? Pour moi la prochaine se sera certainement à Rohrbach-lès-Bitche.

Jean-Luc
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thegirlLocation: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 12:45 AM GMT
Welcome to areoscale , looking very sweet so far .
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RoggaLocation: Östergötland, Sweden
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 01:59 AM GMT

This one lookes very great so far , realy inspiering.


Rogga
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KaltLocation: Mendoza, Argentina
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 05:19 AM GMT
Looking good, Louis!
Which version are you planning to depict?

Regards,
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I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library.
Siempre imagine que el paraíso sería algún tipo de biblioteca.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 09:31 PM GMT
For a quick comparison of the differences and similarities here is the DML kit build.

Hangar Queen
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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Friday, February 20, 2009 - 10:29 AM GMT
Small pieces of plastic and thread of copper:





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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 11:16 AM GMT
Thank you for your nice word.

The post of piloting is finished. The handle which opens the shutters of hood is a plastic triangle painted in brown, left grey is painted by top. The lever is a fall of photocut and the handle a stretched edge of plastic cut in the blade of rasoire.



The maul is plastic stretched.











I chose to glue together the bottom of post on a side of the airframe what seems to me less risked than to glue together it on the wing inferior and its girders (as stated). I however tried. I could not even take in the bottom of post into the airframe...

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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 12:34 PM GMT
It looks like the upper cowling deck is arched too high.
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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 05:56 PM GMT
Hi



N°1 is just put down but not glued together. Or is it second one?
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 07:18 AM GMT
Its like a bridge that is too high and needs to be pressed down in the middle to spread out the legs wider. The "second one" or "instrument shelf" may need beveling at the outer edge. But After bending open Part #1 I would cut down the inner edges too.
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thegirlLocation: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 09:48 AM GMT
Could this be a flaw in the kit and something for other builders to watch for ?

Louis your work is outstanding ! The blue in the cockpit really draws your eye into the detail . Looking forward to more .................................................

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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:37 AM GMT
Thank you



The kit is not "conceived" (?) correctly!

I sanded a lot the inside of cover (the one,1) and taken down a little (1/2mm) the second one (2).

It's ok now.

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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 12:40 PM GMT
Excellent Louis! Model On!
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thegirlLocation: Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 02:37 AM GMT
Thanks Louis , will be watching of this in my build . How is the fit in the tail area ?
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KornbeefLocation: England - South East, United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 06:09 AM GMT
These things are sent to try us Louis, good to see you overcame it easily, and an outstanding build for sure

Keith
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Don't look at plans--------Don't look at plans--------Don't look at plans

Don't read build logs---Don't read build logs---Don't read build logs

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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 11:39 PM GMT
Hi! And thanks for your words.

And if and there is worse. I cut both reinforcements 1 / 2mm (I do not know any more if the photograph was made before or after operation):.



and sanded there:



After that it's correct ... I added the bar behind the seat (it will be right once glued together by every quoting idem for cables) and a " chest in cloth " which is fixed there:

The chest is alu food type there " box for congelation ":





I forgot to make a photograph inside the Spad.



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How is the fit in the tail area ?



Not good!

I glued together a side of the airframe with the cover (the best that I could). I began with the left side which is the most difficult to put, and ... it misses 1 / 2mm in the front and also 1 / 2mm in the back
The exit of shells is refined with a file and the top of the scalpel.



Then same job with the righthand which comes back almost perfectly. The bottom of the airframe is not reached yet:



This side is correct (...):



The opposite side, sanded is going to be needed and we must be delicate:





Since the photograph I stuck a little better by pushing it back of inside with a stem.

The seat is in refined including the low party because it bangs at home in the compass which is glued together on the fla


A piece of Tamiya tape fixes a piece of tin thread ( bought in a store of flyfishing). We twist it and we glue together, small end by small end.





Good news: The hood (the ring) puts on in place without problem and is correctly lined up.

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Posted: Friday, February 27, 2009 - 06:01 AM GMT
Excellent Louis! I give it an A++ so far. My sincere thanks for you sharing your methods here good stuff!
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CaptainALocation: Indiana, United States
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Posted: Saturday, March 07, 2009 - 10:01 AM GMT
Your scratch building skills and eye for detail are amazing.
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I am in Albatros heaven

"Treat 'em Rough",

Carl

Current Builds--Twin 1/32 Albie Build (A D.III and a D.V). SE 5a for the Wingnut Group Build.
 
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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 07:46 AM GMT
Thank you for your words!


I repair holes today:


I glued plastic card (0.4mm) on the front of the plane. Left side was too short....





I 'm carving and sanding plastic card, and....It's not good:



I glued an other plastic card (0.15mm):



and an other on (0.15mm)



I sand the "nose" of the plane on a piece of sandpaper layed down flat (?)

I put a little glue (in red) on the angle to consolidate the whole and sand it.






On your left it's OK, on your right it's NOT OK (white):



We must glued both side together very strongly, and hope...(The underside of the plane is not glued together).




I ask myself if I am not going to take away the plate to do it again in plastic card. The top of the plate is difficult to sand and the angle must be right-angled:



Any sugestions ?

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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 12:56 AM GMT
So far Louis you are doing a fantastic jo on this build and it's nice to have your imput on fit issues for the rest of us who haven't tackled this kit yet .
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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 01:01 AM GMT
Thank you Terri!
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guitarlute101Location: West Virginia, United States
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 04:56 AM GMT

Excellent work, Louis. I'm enjoying your thread immensely! I can't wait to see what you've got in store next.

Mark
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 12:58 PM GMT


Wow! Louis that is quite a gap there at the bottom. Is this because

1. something inside was too wide

2. or a design flaw (shortcoming)?

It looks like the cowling will be too large if the fuselage bottom is pinched tight together at the nose. I am guessing but it looks like about .030 thou gap?
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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 07:21 PM GMT
Hi and thank vou!


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1. something inside was too wide

2. or a design flaw (shortcoming)?



I did not glue together both sides of the airframe to be able to adapt them to the capot and to the the underside of the airframe:

unglued :



glued together :



with the underside of the airframe and both side not glued:












You can see the underside "fits well enough" (is ok) when right and left side are not glued. It's a BIG design flaw ?

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Posted: Friday, March 20, 2009 - 12:17 AM GMT
Wow that is a nasty design flaw ! it almost seems that Eduard rushed to get this kit out .
I have the dual combo in 72 scale and the moldings are the same now I woundering if that has the same short comings as well .

Louis you have show us expectional skills and my hat is of to you sir , it would seem that the floor is to wide for the fuselage and needs to sanded down as well as the fire wall .
to get a tight fit . I'm going to have to unpack this kit and have a closer look at it . I have made notes from your experience with this build and look forward to more .
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LouisLocation: Bas-Rhin, France
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Posted: Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 09:39 AM GMT
Thank you Terri.


I did again the plate:

I have blacken it with a pencil and put over a piece of scotch tape to take a print.







I glued it on a plastic leaf and cut the new plate.



The plane's plate is sanded a little.



And the new plate glued. The scotch tape allows to set it up without making a mistake.







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