| Subject: 1/32 Roden GB 2008 Fok. F. I - Brad |
 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 08:04 PM UTC |
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Some of you may recall that not so long ago I built a Roden 1/32 Albatros D.III in the markings of Werner Voss for friend of mine - see Click here.The ALbatros was one of three 1/32 Voss-related kits that I agreed to build for said friend, the other two being the Roden Fokker F.1 and Pfalz D.III. Well I decided after completing my latest project that I would get off by backside and get stuck into the F.1. As per the Albatros, I intend to make this an online build (if y'all don't mind) - I will be building this kit with the assistance of the PART photoetched set for this kit. So far I have tackled the engine, which took me an afternoon to complete. My research tells me that Voss' triplane was fitted with a 110hp LeRhone at the time of his famous final flight. After digging though a couple of references, the kit engine looks pretty well spot on to represent the LeRhone (I am guessing that the Oberursel must have been a pretty close copy) - this was a good thing as it meant I did not have to do any modifications to the kit engine. The engine looks very nice out of the box and I did not feel that I had to make any modifications other than to omit the cylindrical looking part that Roden will have you fit to the back of the engine (part 8E). I found that if I fitted this part, that the cowling would not fit over the engine and flush with the firewall. Anyway, here are some pics.    I have also painted the wood parts of the cockpit as well as the propeller - as per most of the Roden 1/32 kits, the prop has some large sink holes, but these were easily dealt with. Next, onto the cockpit, where I intend to enhance the kit details with the PART set. All feedback welcomed!  BC |
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 | Doug Kinder DAK66 | Location: Tennessee, United States Member Since: April 28, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 01:28 AM UTC |
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Good start Brad i really enjoy seeing your work . |
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 | Hugh MerlinV | Location: Victoria, Australia Member Since: November 26, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 09:21 AM UTC |
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Cool! Another source of reference for my Roden 1/32 Group Build build.
I will be very interested to see how you do this one Brad... Especially on the exterior...
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 | Carl Althaus CaptainA |  | Location: Indiana, United States Member Since: May 14, 2007
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| Posted: Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 10:56 AM UTC |
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It is a very good kit. I can't wait to see what kind of magic you do to it. |
Now, to quote Monty Python "Albatros"
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Carl
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 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 12:30 AM UTC |
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Ok folks, it's been a while between drinks on this one, mainly due to other projects.... I am on a bit of a deadline to finish this one as I found out last week that I will be moving out of town in two months time (isn't life in the military fun!). As such, I have put in a bit of effort over the last few days and I have now just about finished the cockpit with the assistance of the PART photo-etched fret. I also added some other details, namely the V-shaped wooden fuselage formers from plastic sheet, and wiring from fuse wire and solder. The rest of the bits are from the PART set, which was actually a little vauge in placement of certain items (I am reasonably sure I have the seat belt attachments wrong - you always find references once its all glued together!!)... other than that, it all went together quite well (in contrast with the Roden 1/32 Albatros D.III, which was a real challenge to get the cockpit in)... Anyways, the pics:      Next, it's on to major assembly... As always, all feedback and criticisms welcome! |
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 | Lars Qvarfordt Repainted |  | Location: Östergötland, Sweden Member Since: April 04, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 06:10 AM UTC |
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Good as always, you´r the best Brad. Just like it Thanks for sharing, and let us see the rest.
Cheers Larsa Q |
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 | Stephen T. Lawson JackFlash
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| Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 08:01 AM UTC |
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Some of you may recall that not so long ago I built a Roden 1/32 Albatros D.III in the markings of Werner Voss for friend of mine - see Click here.. . .BC
See here at Aeroscale : Aeroscale Thread. |
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 | Carl Althaus CaptainA |  | Location: Indiana, United States Member Since: May 14, 2007
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| Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 08:05 AM UTC |
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Good luck on your move. I hope it wont be to disruptive. |
Now, to quote Monty Python "Albatros"
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| Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 02:17 PM UTC |
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Hey Brad, Here is a bit of feed back. sorry. The starter magneto assembly should be on the pilot's left shoulder. And there should be another brace of stay wiring from the rear bulkhead / screen supports to the framing where you have the fuel tank pressure hand pump. Also this item was angled so that when you pumped it you were pushing forward not up and down. |
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 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 11:14 PM UTC |
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Thanks for the feedback Stephen - the items you mentioned were placed where the Roden and PART instructions told me to place them (that'll teach me for following instructions...mumble mumble). I wonder why PART would put the starting magnito at the pilot's right foot if it was supposed to be at his left shoulder??? Odd. Oh well. Thanks for the tip on the bracing, I picked this up myself after I posted the pics and this has since been corrected It's just a pity that I have to rush this build as I cannot dedicate the time to research that I usually do BC |
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 | Stephen T. Lawson JackFlash
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| Posted: Monday, July 14, 2008 - 05:48 AM UTC |
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Here is the real kicker. The starting magneto is the object they tell you to put at the pilot's right shoulder. (should be on the pilot's left shoulder.) The "Bosch" starting magneto they include (that they tell you to put at the pilot's right foot) is bogus. It was designed for inline motors. As to why they included it is anybody's guess. |
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| Posted: Monday, July 14, 2008 - 08:54 AM UTC |
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Hi Brad First off - gorgeous work! As usual with your builds, I'm awestruck - the depth of shading you achieve is an inspiration. Let's make sure this one comes in as a Feature when you're done... Secondly - ahh... the magneto! Stephen has pre-empted the question I was about to ask for the Eduard Dr.I build. They show it mounted on the floor by the pilot's left foot and I was equally confused by that. I trawled through my German cockpit interior references and could never find it associated with a rotary engine. No wonder, in the light of Stephen's comment above. All the best Rowan |
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| Posted: Monday, July 14, 2008 - 02:35 PM UTC |
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Its truely amazing to me they both (Part & Eduard) got it wrong in different locations. |
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 | Carl Althaus CaptainA |  | Location: Indiana, United States Member Since: May 14, 2007
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| Posted: Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 09:31 AM UTC |
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I just checked my book "An Illustrated Anatomy of the World Fighters" It does not even show a starter magneto. Do you have any good pics of what it looks like and its location for future reference? |
Now, to quote Monty Python "Albatros"
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 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 11:37 PM UTC |
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Ok folks, the fuselage is now together as are the flying surfaces. I have now moved to enhancing the nose area. I have added the bottom lip to the cowling seen on the F.I from styrene. Interestingly, both Roden and PART missed the prominent under-nose panel. I added mine from sheet plastic, with wire for the hinge, and etched metal pieces from the spares box to represent the myriad of clips seen on this panel. I have also extended the ailerons to be the larger versions seen on the F.I and early production models.   Getting closer to putting some paint on her... BC |
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 | Carl Althaus CaptainA |  | Location: Indiana, United States Member Since: May 14, 2007
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| Posted: Monday, July 21, 2008 - 11:50 AM UTC |
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Great progress. |
Now, to quote Monty Python "Albatros"
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 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 01:14 AM UTC |
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Preshading is done.  BC |
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 | Dwayne Williams Dwaynewilly | Location: New York, United States Member Since: December 15, 2006
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| Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 05:03 AM UTC |
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Brad,
The interior is looking awesome. Your finishing techniques are outstanding so I'm just gonna sit back and watch this baby bloom. Can't wait to see some more.
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 | Carl Althaus CaptainA |  | Location: Indiana, United States Member Since: May 14, 2007
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| Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 09:42 AM UTC |
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I think you are goimg to be very happy with this build.
As a side note, if you hit the return in between the pictures, the thread won't turn out extra-wide. Easier to see if you dont have to scroll left and right all the time. But really... no big deal. Just a quirk of the software. |
Now, to quote Monty Python "Albatros"
"Treat 'em Rough",
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| Posted: Sunday, July 27, 2008 - 12:18 PM UTC |
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I just checked my book "An Illustrated Anatomy of the World Fighters" It does not even show a starter magneto. Do you have any good pics of what it looks like and its location for future reference?
Absolutely! I will dig out my images later to night (after midight here) and see if I can post one for you. Its 6:17pm here now. |
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 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 - 03:15 PM UTC |
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I have now had a crack at the Fokker streaked finish. I tried a mix of black and yellow ochre oil paints streaked over light blue. Not sure if it is accurate (will anyone ever be sure?). For some reason the photos show each component as a different colour (but they are all the same...)     I also painted the face onto the cowling - knowing roden's decals, I did not think they would sit over the curves very well. Next is on to major assembly - I think I will keep the weathering light to emphasise the nice lines of the aircraft. Let me know what you think. BC |
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| Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 - 03:22 PM UTC |
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Hey Brad its looking good! One small comment the pilot's right side aileron is a later type it should match the left at the scalloped trailing edge for an F.I. |
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 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 - 04:25 PM UTC |
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Thanks Stephen - I missed that one :-) a few quick swipes with some sandpaper and a light touch up have now fixed that!
BC |
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 | Hugh MerlinV | Location: Victoria, Australia Member Since: November 26, 2006
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| Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 - 07:44 PM UTC |
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Hi Brad, Looking good. I too was toying with the idea of masking and spraying the cowel. I'm glad someone else tried it for me Cheers, Hugh |
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| Posted: Friday, August 15, 2008 - 10:52 PM UTC |
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The plane is looking real good Brad but i have a question about the streaking. Was the Fokker olive green color streaked over the light blue or over the doped linen i thought the belief was that it was over the linen? Was there a standard ? |
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 | terri werner thegirl |  | Location: Alberta, Canada Member Since: January 19, 2008
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| Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 12:52 AM UTC |
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Looking really good . your attention to detail is truly inspirational |
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| Posted: Saturday, August 16, 2008 - 10:38 AM UTC |
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Brad, Looks really good! You might try a swipe with a wide brush loaded with thinner to vary the regularity of the lighter colors. The nice thing about oils is that you have a longer amount of time to work with the final finish! You are awesome as always! RAGIII |
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 | Brad Cancian BradCancian | Location: Australian Capital Territory, Australia Member Since: August 30, 2006
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| Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 04:18 PM UTC |
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| Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 04:51 PM UTC |
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Greetings Brad! Excellent build! You have combined several techniques to come up with a very impressive build. It will look very sharp next to your fine Alb. D.III! |
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| Posted: Friday, August 22, 2008 - 06:21 PM UTC |
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Hey Brad!
Excellent result! Congratulations.
If you don't mind me saying though, for one of your builds, this one appears... Understated.
But you did say that you wanted to finish it fairly factory fresh. And this you have succeeded in admirably.
Watch for updates on my thread soon.
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